Confirmed with Link: Vatanen to CAR for Janne Kuokkanen, Frederik Claesson and conditional 4th rounder

OmNomNom

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Maybe you're not listening? This team has made it loud and clear they don't care about winner in the foreseeable future. So f*ck them. After nearly a decade, I've had enough. Continue wasting time on Oilers East if you wish. I don't even give a rat's ass who's to blame anymore.
Dude no one's forcing you to keep rooting for us

You're this angry because you do care about how we do as a team. And yeah the lack of results is frustrating, but sticking through it all gives me solace in knowing that I'm not just some fairweather fan. Posting on this forum is proof of that enough
 
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Dude no one's forcing you to keep rooting for us

You're this angry because you do care about how we do as a team. And yeah the lack of results is frustrating, but sticking through it all gives me solace in knowing that I'm not just some fairweather fan. Posting on this forum is proof of that enough

I'm actually renewing my season tickets :laugh:
 

glenwo2

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I don’t think this is accurate. He corrects himself and clarifies they thought he was the top prospect “in the organization.” Listen to it again.

Big difference in wording there.

So it's basically the Devils (Fitz's) OPINION on what they think about the Prospect.

Whatever. Hopefully he turns into an NHL player.

That's all that matters to me.
 

R8Devs

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I don’t think this is accurate. He corrects himself and clarifies they thought he was the top prospect “in the organization.” Listen to it again.
yeah he says or in the organization, my bad but I still think that comment is a big overreaction to that. He says later on at 3:45 "he's definitely second round value" so he's not really overselling anything if they value him at that level.
 
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I thought Vatanen was significantly overrated. He plays a pretty game but his impact on the offense or defense wasn’t that positive. He’s fine, but not a top pairing dman plus he’s made of glass. Would’ve like a 2nd rounder but at least the prospect is decent and is probably NHL ready. We should know if he’s any good by the end of the year.
 

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Dude no one's forcing you to keep rooting for us

You're this angry because you do care about how we do as a team. And yeah the lack of results is frustrating, but sticking through it all gives me solace in knowing that I'm not just some fairweather fan. Posting on this forum is proof of that enough
And beyond that, what exactly were the Devils supposed to do to ice a winner next season once this year went down the drain so early on? Hall wasn't resigning, good chance Vats wasn't, Schneider is shot, and we'd probably be stuck selling off Coleman or Palms if we want any impact talent in return, anyway. There was no way this club was going to be turned into a solid winner next season, so what would've been the point of not selling at the deadline and not looking to build around the young guys?

Shero tried to retool and rebuild at the same time; the retool didn't work, and the rebuild now moves from the background to the forefront since this season we actually had assets to turn into first round picks and prospects instead of just more 2nds-4ths. If this club was one solid move away from being a contender and they sold off then fine, be upset, but even with Hall/Coleman/Vatanen/et. al. around this team wasn't going anywhere, and likely only had the ceiling of a wild card team if things broke right.
 

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Kuokkanen reminds me of Zajac. He is pass first, very heady, defensively responsible and good engine. Paired with some trigger men it could work.

WJC 2016 highlights:



I just watched that video. The thing that stands out to me is the hockey sense. The thing that feels like it's missing from a Talvitie or Anderson looks like it's there for this kid. Should be interesting to see if he gets into the lineup this year.
 

Davegarri

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Kuokkanen reminds me of Zajac. He is pass first, very heady, defensively responsible and good engine. Paired with some trigger men it could work.

WJC 2016 highlights:



Only problem is we have no snipers other than palms
 

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That U18 video is from his best year though, back when there was bunch of hype in Finland. He looked pretty bad in his U20 showings the next couple of years.
 

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Seems like he could be fine a middle lineup guy with some marginal chance of more upside. OK but not particularly good return for Vatanen imo- probably could've gotten a better pick if he wasn't hurt, but such is life.
 

Devilsfan992

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ESPN ticker still has us receiving a 2nd round pick. How does anyone see them as a credible sports nerwork.
 

Whaddagoal

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I'm gonna miss the Vats is tired/fatigued memes, and his spectacular goalie skills year after year, and the occasional own goal.



So long Sami, maybe you will be back someday! Your skills will be missed..no sarcasm.
 
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RyGuy

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I just watched everything I could find on this guy. Seems like a slightly below average skater with a slightly below average shot. Pass first. Has size but doesnt always use it effectively. It seems like hes fairly creative. Im not really impressed, but I hope Im wrong, which I usually am.
 
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Billdo

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Did some of y'all Looney Tunes come to terms with Vatanens injury really limiting the return or are we still upset about that?
 

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