Vanek was offered to Leafs

Grant

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Well going by a comparison:
Kulemin (upcoming UFA like Moulson)
1st in 2014
2nd in 2015

Pretty high for a scoring winger, which isn't what this team needs.
 

Sergei Berezin

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Vanek is the #1 thing we don't need.

Nothing against him, but we have a plethora of wingers here.

And to answer your question, they probably asked for something around Gardiner, which is why they even offered him in the division.
 

FlareKnight

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Would have left us with one of the most insane collection top 6 wingers though :laugh:. Makes sense not to go all in on that front.
 

TheKrebsCycle

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great talent but not really a fit here without moving a ton of pieces around (ie wingers traded/cap compliance).
 

CHRoNiCWiLL

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I think a deal like:
Kulemin, Finn/Percy, 2014 2nd would have been fair. Vanek would probably have preferred here over NYI since we are much closer

Also, Buffalo was willing to eat salary so cap concerns were not an issue
 

Pinto

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Vanek is a great player, but as you guys said another scoring winger is the last thing we need. It would have been pretty difficult to fit his contract in as well.
 

Erndog

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Well going by a comparison:
Kulemin (upcoming UFA like Moulson)
1st in 2014
2nd in 2015

Pretty high for a scoring winger, which isn't what this team needs.


Agreed. Even though Vanek isn't what we need, he's clearly a great player and in a NON-CAP world you make this deal.

Problem being... in the cap world we live in assets like picks are more valuable AND Vanek would have been a strict rental as they would have certainly no room to keep him beyond this year (unless, I guess, they let Phaneuf walk).

But would have been pretty neat ;)

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Bolland-Vanek
Raymond-Bozak-Clarkson
Mclaren-Mcclement-Orr
 

ACC1224

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I can't see the Leafs having interest so I doubt it got to price.
 

Leafs Fan 12

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Leafs assistant GM Claude Loiselle was at the Sabres game last night (post Vanek trade, obviously), along with one of TOR's pro scouts
 

frankthetank91

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I really don't understand why we even tried to get him. Great player and all but where would he fit? He is a left winger no? So are JVR and Lupul not to mention Raymond on the 3rd line. Assuming JVR, Lupul, Kessel, Clarkson and even probably Raymond wouldn't be traded why are we looking for more wingers? Confusing. Did we really give Clarkson that contract to play on the 3rd line?
 

Erndog

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I really don't understand why we even tried to get him. Great player and all but where would he fit? He is a left winger no? So are JVR and Lupul not to mention Raymond on the 3rd line. Assuming JVR, Lupul, Kessel, Clarkson and even probably Raymond wouldn't be traded why are we looking for more wingers? Confusing. Did we really give Clarkson that contract to play on the 3rd line?

Read carefully. It said Buffalo offered Vanek to Toronto.

Not "Toronto trying to get Vanek".
 

Pi

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there isn't a single player we need from Buffalo

Not true.

The one and only player we need from Buffalo is Christian Ehrhoff.

Phaneuf with Ehrhoff will be a deadly combination...not to mention his cap hit is only 4M. He's been paid 18M of his 40M contract in 2 years already.

7 years for 22M at a 4M cap hit.

Ehrhoff is a legit top pairing D that can play 22-25 minutes.

I'd do 1st + Biggs + Liles for Ehrhoff.
 

Kurisu

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Not true.

The one and only player we need from Buffalo is Christian Ehrhoff.

Phaneuf with Ehrhoff will be a deadly combination...not to mention his cap hit is only 4M. He's been paid 18M of his 40M contract in 2 years already.

7 years for 22M at a 4M cap hit.

Ehrhoff is a legit top pairing D that can play 22-25 minutes.

what are the cap implications if we retires early?
 

p.l.f.

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We can get a younger version in Yakupov - if you really want another scoring winger
adding a 7 mil contract impending UFA doesnt work here
 

Remuskokafication

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Not true.

The one and only player we need from Buffalo is Christian Ehrhoff.

Phaneuf with Ehrhoff will be a deadly combination...not to mention his cap hit is only 4M. He's been paid 18M of his 40M contract in 2 years already.

7 years for 22M at a 4M cap hit.

Ehrhoff is a legit top pairing D that can play 22-25 minutes.

I'd do 1st + Biggs + Liles for Ehrhoff.
I agree Erhoff is really good and I was looking at him. But he's old.
 

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