Proposal: Vancouver-New Jersey

[Cancuks]

To NJ:

Jake Virtanen
Nikita Tryamkin (rights)
Sven Baertschi

To Van:

Vancouver's 1st 2020

Baertschi's a cap dump but could be a mentor for his fellow countryman Nico Hischier for one season.

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[CraigsList]

Canucks don't have their 2020 1st.

And it would be unwise to trade the 2021 1st pre TDL unless you're getting a player like Miller who helped the Canucks get to where they are.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Canucks don't have their 2020 1st.

And it would be unwise to trade the 2021 1st pre TDL unless you're getting a player like Miller who helped the Canucks get to where they are.

Read the proposal again.

The Canucks would be getting BACK their 2020 1st in this deal, since NJ currently holds it.

That said, I don't see why NJ does this unless they are convinced Tryamkin is coming back and they like him.

 

[Cancuks]

Canucks don't have their 2020 1st.

And it would be unwise to trade the 2021 1st pre TDL unless you're getting a player like Miller who helped the Canucks get to where they are.

NJ owns Vancouver's 1st

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Rather keep the 1st to be honest.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

gross. Not at all interested.

 

[Fatass]

Jake for a late first (23-31) is fair. But adding Bear lowers Jake’s value by a lot. Baer is a cap dump.
Tryamkin’s value is debatable. Imo it’s not much.

 

[JT Kreider]

Canucks don't have their 2020 1st.

And it would be unwise to trade the 2021 1st pre TDL unless you're getting a player like Miller who helped the Canucks get to where they are.

So, in your mind you read it as:

To NJ:
Virtanen
Baertschi
Tryamkin
VAN 2020 1st

To VAN:



????

 

[Mrfenn92]

Devils say no but it’s workable

 

[youryeah]

Jake for a late first (23-31) is fair.

is it? that's like asking for a 1st rd pick for pavel zacha

 

[Fatass]

is it? that's like asking for a 1st rd pick for pavel zacha

PZ is an 8 goal scorer. How is that comparable?

 

[7even]

If I'm NJ I just want to make as many picks as possible. Virtanen is a fine player and worthwhile to acquire but I don't know what New Jersey is supposed to do with him. Be Bad vs Be Bad But With Jake Virtanen.

 

[cwede]

how about Schneider for Horvat?

 

[CraigsList]

So, in your mind you read it as:

To NJ:
Virtanen
Baertschi
Tryamkin
VAN 2020 1st

To VAN:



????

Lol, it was too early in the morning.

 

[CraigsList]

Now that I've really read the proposal, doesn't make sense for New Jersey at all.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

No thanks.

 

[devils29]

So NJ takes on a big cap dump for a 3rd liner and the rights to some RFA I’ve never heard of while giving up a 1st. Terrible

 

[AfroThunder396]

PZ is an 8 goal scorer. How is that comparable?

Zacha has more career points in fewer career games. Even in Virtanen's "breakout" season, he had only 4 more points than Zacha did on a much, much better team.

Virtanen is a 3rd liner and you're not going to convince someone to give up a 1st for him just because of where he was drafted. Baertschi is an AHL player that was waived twice last year. Trymakin hasn't played in the NHL for 3 years after fleeing to Russia.

This proposal is horrible. A 3rd liner and assorted trash for a 1st, absolutely horrible.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

PZ is an 8 goal scorer. How is that comparable?

108 points in 266 games vs 95 points in 279 games. Wow, so vastly different.

Both players stink and would not return a 1st.

 

[Cancuks]

So NJ takes on a big cap dump for a 3rd liner and the rights to some RFA I’ve never heard of while giving up a 1st. Terrible

$2.2 million is what they'd have to pay Baertschi. Hardly big. Virtanen would score 20 goals and provide some physicality to protect your small forwards. He had some good chemistry with Pettersson at times so might find that with Hughes. Tryamkin is a 6'7 260 lb wildcard that if he comes over season over would play in your top 4 for sure and dish out a ton of big hits. Would likely thrive in the East.
These boards vastly overrate mid-late first round picks, especially in a weak draft.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

$2.2 million is what they'd have to pay Baertschi. Hardly big. Virtanen would score 20 goals and provide some physicality to protect your small forwards. He had some good chemistry with Pettersson at times so might find that with Hughes. Tryamkin is a 6'7 260 lb wildcard that if he comes over season over would play in your top 4 for sure and dish out a ton of big hits. Would likely thrive in the East.
These boards vastly overrate mid-late first round picks, especially in a weak draft.

based on what? Hes never done that.

we have no interest. Just take the L and move on.

 

[Forge]

I like Virtanen and I like him as a guy to buy low on with a cap dump. Not give up a first round pick + take on a dump.

 

[devils29]

$2.2 million is what they'd have to pay Baertschi. Hardly big. Virtanen would score 20 goals and provide some physicality to protect your small forwards. He had some good chemistry with Pettersson at times so might find that with Hughes. Tryamkin is a 6'7 260 lb wildcard that if he comes over season over would play in your top 4 for sure and dish out a ton of big hits. Would likely thrive in the East.
These boards vastly overrate mid-late first round picks, especially in a weak draft.

Lot of ifs and maybes To take a cap dump while giving up a 1st. Cap dumps going to cost a premium with the flat cap. You are dumping cap and taking on a 1st ever especially this year. It’s bad for the Devils. End of story

 

[BB06]

based on what? Hes never done that.

we have no interest. Just take the L and move on.

Based on the fact that he was 2 goals away this season and would’ve certainly hit it if the season wasn’t halted?

 

[Favin]

Virtanen would be perfect for NJD, to be honest. Not at these prices though.

For NJD fans, best comp I got is "righty Miles Wood". Speed, size, straight lines, a few turnovers, can bury the puck. Offer what you would for Miles...and that is probably the market's price here.