Confirmed with Link: [VAN/MTL] Canucks acquire G Casey DeSmith for F Tanner Pearson, 3rd Round Pick

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Seriously?

Of course fans can complain about more assets being dealt away just to fix a terrible cap structure.

Obviously I'd rather not give up a 3rd, but that said - the Canucks got a serviceable NHL backup goalie (certainly better than Martin, which is a must if the plan is for Silovs to get the lion's share of starts in Abby) and we save cap space. It's not a bad trade. IMO.

 

[Petey O]

Seriously?

Of course fans can complain about more assets being dealt away just to fix a terrible cap structure.

Jamie, post the odds of a latter stage 3rd round pick becoming a productive NHL player.

 

[FroshaugFan2]

Not the worst deal after the Canucks backed themselves in to a corner. But still not happy to be giving up more picks for self inflicted cap issues.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Why do we have so many AHL goalies?

I've said all along that Martin isn't good enough, and DeSmith is certainly an improvement. But why sign Sawchenko? Even before this trade Tolopilo was going to struggle to get starts.

Didn’t we just got an ECHL affiliate this season ?

 

[brock hughes007]

So should we put to rest any Myers move until the trade deadline...

 

[Aphid Attraction]

Scouting report on casey desmith?

Plays the goalie position better then Tanner Pearson.

 

[Nucker101]

This trade is okay on it's own, but man I honestly wonder if the Canucks have set some sort of a record as a franchise for most picks traded away by a non-playoff team.


Magic beans, I know, I know.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Nobody in history understood that extension and the timing
as Pettersson and Hughes still weren't signed
and we held onto him at the deadline despite missing the playoffs.

i remember when it was announced, everyone just went WHY?

The players were obviously upset about losing Tanev, Toffoli, and Markstrom the year prior. So they didn't want Pearson to hit UFA. In a normal market it's probably a pretty fair deal. Maybe a slight overpay. But it was the flat cap era though, and Pearson level players were getting squeezed at the time. Also just completely oblivious to the fact that overpaying bottom half of the roster players is why we lost those players in the first place.

 

[credulous]

But even with Pearson gone, aren't the Canucks still over the cap?

yeah but poolman is going on ltir permanently. they're under the cap when you take that into consideration

they can run pretty much any 23 man roster they want now. no cap space to add players though and they'll be into ltir from day one so no accruing space for the deadline

 

[Breakers]

I remember driving home from somewhere and being so pissed off. Was legit in disbelief lol

Ray Ferraro was on TSN radio when they announced the extension
He was baffled
Just roasting Benning about he clearly has zero understanding of the cap

He was like Jim Benning is actually going with the negotiation approach with Pettersson and Hughes of
"this is what we have left........ take it or leave it"

 

[VanJack]

a 2025th 3rd round pick to clean up some of Benning's mess. Don't see anyone having a real problem with this trade.

It's an improvement on the second rounder the Canucks had to cough up to get out from under another of Benning's contract imbroglios, Jason Dickinson.

Allvin really was left with a mess to clean up. Sadly the only way out from under some of these albatross contracts is to surrender draft picks.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

https://x.com/DhaliwalSports/status/1704253958259397078?s=20

Always nice to have someone happy to be here.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Seriously?

Of course fans can complain about more assets being dealt away just to fix a terrible cap structure.

Again...under the circumstances...We are under pressure with the cap , no denying that.

What we gave up, is the price of doing business to get under the cap at this time of year.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

His agent told Benning that he'd get a big contract in the summer. Such a great negotiator.

In the flat cap era too, where these level of players were making peanuts on short term deals.

 

[FroshaugFan2]

Didn’t we just got an ECHL affiliate this season ?

Yeah, but I was hoping Tolopilo would compete for an AHL job.

Martin and Sawchenko can't be sent to the ECHL, so at best Tolopilo is 4th on Abbotsford's depth chart.

At least we shouldn't have a situation like DiPietro being forced to play against the Sharks this season.

 

[Diogenes92]

Obviously I'd rather not give up a 3rd, but that said - the Canucks got a serviceable NHL backup goalie (certainly better than Martin, which is a must if the plan is for Silovs to get the lion's share of starts in Abby) and we save cap space. It's not a bad trade. IMO.

It depends how much you value draft picks vs. saving a small amount of cap space and a middling backup goalie.

Jamie, post the odds of a latter stage 3rd round pick becoming a productive NHL player.

Latter stage, huh?

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Yeah, but I was hoping Tolopilo would compete for an AHL job.

Martin and Sawchenko can't be sent to the ECHL, so at best Tolopilo is 4th on Abbotsford's depth chart.

Meh, he can play in the ECHL for another season

 

[MS]

my follow-up thought with this is that from a real cash perspective, this was a third round pick in exchange for $1 million in real cash savings. Given that Myers would retain some value to be flipped at the deadline, I really don’t see why we would have to pay more than a third round pick to dump him based on this trade.

Like I think he should be value neutral

It's so hard to figure out player values right now.

Like, I expected it would cost a lot more than this to move Pearson if he couldn't go on LTIR.

And Desmith ... to me should actually have positive value? He's a top backup (positive GSAA every year of his career) on $1.8 million for 1 year. When you look at what Cam Talbot ($2 million) and James Reimer ($1.5 million) got last summer after worse seasons and they're 3-4 years older ... he's on a pretty good contract.

Myers to me should logically have positive value to an Arizona-type team given that his performance exceeds his cash salary and given that he'd command a decent asset at the deadline. But how the NHL market works is not logical.

 

[Petey O]

Latter stage, huh?

Yes, I think the Canucks will be a top 16 team in the NHL this season.

 

[ziploc]

f*** you benning

 

[Canucker]

Could be worse....but the bleeding of assets because management can't properly manage the cap is frustrating.

 

[Breakers]

I forgot Benning gave Pearson a NTC for the first 2 years of the deal


Guy just got absolutely manhandled by agents in contract structure.

not to mention the BACKLOADED signing bonus, another tyler myers special making him less attractive

 

[credulous]

basically paid a 3rd round pick to swap pearson and martin for suter/blueger and desmith. not great but not terrible

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

Plays the goalie position better then Tanner Pearson.

But is he a better goaltender than UFA, Alex Edler?

 

[ratbid]

I like this (in context). We can be cap compliant with Poolman on LTIR now.

Have DeSmith work with Ian Clarke and maybe he could hold some small value at the deadline, he has shown spurts of very solid play.