Speculation: Value of Tobias Enstrom
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sully1410
#EggosForEleven
cheswick
Non-registered User
Off-season value is clearly better. Too much cap considerations during the season eliminates potential trade partners.
I don't think there's much of a chance enstrom is getting moved.
I don't think there's much of a chance enstrom is getting moved.
garret9
AKA#VitoCorrelationi
Romang67
BitterSwede
When it would be better to move him? When he isn't replaced by Clitsome, Stuart, Pardy or Ellerby on the left side...
Basically, if we move him, we need another LHD, we should wait until Morrissey shows potential to take his place, and he should be moved for a top 4 young LHD and a young top 6 forward.
And they both have to be Swedish, because we're gonna get a German in the draft for GermanJetsFan, so it's not fair if we don't have a Swede to make me happy!
Basically, if we move him, we need another LHD, we should wait until Morrissey shows potential to take his place, and he should be moved for a top 4 young LHD and a young top 6 forward.
And they both have to be Swedish, because we're gonna get a German in the draft for GermanJetsFan, so it's not fair if we don't have a Swede to make me happy!
I think he'd bring a return along the lines of what sully suggested.
Just can't see him moved for so many reasons: NMC, lack of depth on left side, really no or minimal negative impacts this year (other than not scoring "enough" what's he done to hurt the team?). Good mentor down the road for Morrissey, young enough to slide to #2 LHD when Morrissey surpasses him.
Maybe you move him in the last year of his deal, but not likely before then if at all.
Just can't see him moved for so many reasons: NMC, lack of depth on left side, really no or minimal negative impacts this year (other than not scoring "enough" what's he done to hurt the team?). Good mentor down the road for Morrissey, young enough to slide to #2 LHD when Morrissey surpasses him.
Maybe you move him in the last year of his deal, but not likely before then if at all.
garret9
AKA#VitoCorrelationi
Essentially ya.
Buff is a good player, but is expendable* because we have Bogosian and Trouba.
Enstrom is a good player, but is not expendable in the same way because we have Clitsome, Ellerby, Melchiori, Chairot (not going to include UFAs)... eww
*expendable as in I expect short term net loss but hope potential long term net gain with asset maximization
Buff is a good player, but is expendable* because we have Bogosian and Trouba.
Enstrom is a good player, but is not expendable in the same way because we have Clitsome, Ellerby, Melchiori, Chairot (not going to include UFAs)... eww
*expendable as in I expect short term net loss but hope potential long term net gain with asset maximization
Romang67
BitterSwede
King Woodballs
Captain Awesome
garret9
AKA#VitoCorrelationi
I love doing this... let's compare pro-level d-men depth for handedness that rights are owned or signed past this year...
RHD:
Byfuglien
Bogosian
Trouba (only putting below Bogosian due to experience)
Postma
Redmond
Kichton
LHD:
Enstrom
Clitsome
Ellerby
Kulda
Melchiori
Chiarot
Sol
"One of these things is not like the others"
RHD:
Byfuglien
Bogosian
Trouba (only putting below Bogosian due to experience)
Postma
Redmond
Kichton
LHD:
Enstrom
Clitsome
Ellerby
Kulda
Melchiori
Chiarot
Sol
"One of these things is not like the others"
garret9
AKA#VitoCorrelationi
It's another straw on the mules back...
Plus Chevy once said: The only players unmovable are those that contracts dictate that I cannot move them.
Ya no kidding. I'd be willing to bet that every single Jet player would waive their NTC to get out of this mess.
King Woodballs
Captain Awesome
So if Chevy had a deal with pittsburgh or chicago or boston or any other contender
he wouldn't go?
Yes there are limitations when it comes to clauses like that.
But to think he cant be moved is a bit much IMO
garret9
AKA#VitoCorrelationi
There's always a chance but probabilistically it's unlikely enough looking at the evidence that it isn't worth much discussion.
We could re-open chances Jets trade for Toews because he is a Winnipeger or maybe we luck out and get Malkin for peanuts?
Yep: in the end, it just gives the player control over their contract situation and in any discussion of trades to various teams - they can always be asked to waive them.
Enstrom is one of the core I wold keep. He has proven he can stay healthy and has ben a rock of strength this year. It's horrifying to think of what the left side would look like without him.
Plus, guys that can skate like he can tend to age well.
Plus, guys that can skate like he can tend to age well.
allan5oh
Has prospect fever
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Our left side with out Toby.
Agreed, none of our righties want to play on the left.
sully1410
#EggosForEleven
I dont understand why what the players want to do has anything to do with it.
If the coach wants you to play Left...you play left. Thats the end of it.
wow... I know you don't have a soft spot for Stuart, but he doesn't even make the list!
