Raptors Discussion: v94 | Raptors land 4th pick in NBA draft lottery. Draft set for July 29

[Eyedea]

Looking at stats, when looking at kids who come out of FSU, is the wrong approach. Barnes was a one-and-done guy, and he came off the bench the majority of the season. Pat Williams was selected 4th, and wasn’t a regular starter. To Leonard Hamilton the team dynamic is everything. Learning to play defense comes first. Being a great teammate is paramount. Preparing young men for bot the pros, and life after basketball is a core philosophy. There are no egos in the program. Accountability is everything.

Scottie has higher potential than Williams had, and has a really complete game, outside of his shooting. What he brings in spades is energy, character, attitude, and a locker room presence. NOBODY works harder than Barnes. Nobody wants to be the best like he does. Takes coaching, very humble, and a kid who wants to win.

With our development staff, we could have the best player in the draft in a few years. Really excited about this pick.

Yeah gotta admit Hamilton's program is incredibly underrated. Barnes was a 5 star recruit, played with Cade Cunningham and Day'Ron Sharpe at Montverde Academy, received offers from Miami, Kentucky, Oregon and Ohio State, and FSU ended up getting him.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Yeah gotta admit Hamilton's program is incredibly underrated. Barnes was a 5 star recruit, played with Cade Cunningham and Day'Ron Sharpe at Montverde Academy, received offers from Miami, Kentucky, Oregon and Ohio State, and FSU ended up getting him.

I’m a fan of FSU athletics across the board, and Coach Ham has built this program rock solid. This recruiting class coming in is our best ever, and should have 1-2 more lottery picks on the way. Covid put an end to what I believe was a tournament champion calibre team. Real shame they never got to play that out.

Coach Hamilton is well known for his mentorship, and his kids always work and play hard.

If only our football team wasn’t down…

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[hockeywiz542]

Here is Jalen Suggs sister Jennica's reaction to her brother not being drafted by the Toronto Raptors:

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

Here is Jalen Suggs sister Jennica's reaction to her brother not being drafted by the Toronto Raptors:

Loser

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

I just hope this doesn't turn out to be Terrence Ross type of pick lol.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

The way I see it is that Masai and company knew what Suggs was all about, that he’s part of the big 4 and what not. But their judgement, who most of us trust, saw Barnes as the better player. They know a lot more about these guys then we do. So if they see Barnes as the guy, we should trust their instincts and see how this plays out.

 

[ronzigato]

I was set for Suggs, we've been reading that for weeks, but Bobby and Masai get my vote of confidence here based on their track record.

 

[Stand Witness]

Barnes seems genuinely excited to be a Raptor and by all accounts he brings that work ethic and excitement that everyone loves.

im excited about the pick

 

[WeThreeKings]

So all 3 picks cant shoot?

 

[Terrible GM]

I was expecting Suggs like many, but I read (somewhere) to not ignore Barnes as a possible pick, so it was in the back of my mind. After watching Suggs being a little too happy when Barnes was picked, and then Barnes being very...very happy to be picked, it was a bit reassuring.

If Barnes can develop his pro game further and put up around 15 points a night AND be a defensive force (10 boards, a few blocks, steals and assists), I will be very happy with this pick. That puts him in DPotY category.

 

[Thervguy]

Did you see Suggs do a fist pump when the Raptors passed on him. He would have baled on us in the long run.

 

[Communal Blood]

Did you see Suggs do a fist pump when the Raptors passed on him. He would have baled on us in the long run.

Yep. IMO it was more than just "one player happy to see another get drafted". I don't think Suggs had a burning desire to come here anyway.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Wasn't a big fan of this move at first, still not sure, but Masai and Bobby have earned the right to let it play out before being too harsh.

If he can develop a shot it seems like he has a really high ceiling, but developing a shot is far from a given.

Let's hope for the best!

 

[IceColdBear]

It will be interesting to see how we use Barnes.

He can play from 1 - 5. We could have a pretty damn big "small ball" lineup with him, OG, and Siakam on the floor. Switch everything on D and get out in transition - seems like something Nurse would love.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Well after sleeping on it. If excited to see if he hits his potential upside. That wingspan is ridiculous.

 

[Clark4Ever]

We all need to be patient before passing judgment. It's going to be painful to watch Suggs be the better player in the short term, but hopefully this gamble will pay off for us in a few years if Barnes reaches his ceiling.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

I love the way he suffocates his man on defense, and wins with energy. He’s always moving, active hands, always communicating. Barnes is a leader at a young age. I kinda hope Lowry is around to mentor him, and show him what it means to be a star in Toronto.

 

[Makaveli]

I didn't do much research on Barnes before the draft, only the "top 4". Gotta say I'm feeling this pick. If they can fix his jumper he has the potential to be the best player from this draft. Draymond comparisons are flawed, Barnes is a much better ball handler, much quicker and way more athletic than Draymond. I have full trust in our organization. Suggs may be better at first but in the long run Barnes potential is substantial.

 

[TDotMassive]

No matter what happens, this will be a fun team to watch.

Yes... the all defensive specialist team that can't score is going to be a blast to watch

 

[TDotMassive]

Fair enough LOL

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Yes... the all defensive specialist team that can't score is going to be a blast to watch

I loved the ‘04 Pistons. Maybe you should look into them

 

[djdev]

I loved the ‘04 Pistons. Maybe you should look into them

to be fair that team could also rebound which we are like last in the league in, and had possibly the greatest defensive player of all time.

 

[DuklaNation]

Bad workout is today's version of don't draft me. These agents today are slick. Suggs didn't want to be here. However, Barnes did and management wanted him more. So it worked out in the end.

Barnes has some of the highest upside in this draft. His offense will take 2 years to catch up though. Shooting is not his problem, its shot creation in half court. When the play breaks down, what does he do? He's too limited there (that was Suggs weakness as well though) and will need time. Bright side is Barnes has good handles especially for his size so improvement is VERY likely. In the interim period, it doesn't really make the Raptors that much better other than on defense.

Nurse has to go ALL defensive lineup, that is his advantage now. There is no team in the league that has OG, Siakam, Barnes as a 3 forward defensive unit. All have 7'3 wingspan.

 

[blue stick]

Here is Jalen Suggs sister Jennica's reaction to her brother not being drafted by the Toronto Raptors:

Translation please?