GDT: UFC 287: Pereira vs. Adesanya 2/PFL 2

[ThrowDemTongs]

During the second round Anik read the stat that Pereira was connecting about 60% of the time, whilst Izzy was connecting about 30% of the time. Of course Izzy was throwing more, but he was not connecting every time like the commentary would have you believe during the 1st round.

I heard that too, but landing leg kicks isn't the same as landing body kicks and is rightfully not scored equally. He was throwing the more damaging shots.

Even in the last sequence, you keep hearing the commentary about a calf kick "hurting" Izzy, but he immediately fires back a beautiful liver kick with the "hurt" leg. No comment from the booth. Another calf kick and a knee attempt, then goodnight.

 

[Chaels Arms]

Dana keeps hyping the fact that Colby was the backup fighter for Usman v. Edwards 3 but Burns said he also volunteered to be the backup for that fight and Dana admitted Burns was telling the truth.

 

[I am not exposed]

Dana keeps hyping the fact that Colby was the backup fighter for Usman v. Edwards 3 but Burns said he also volunteered to be the backup for that fight and Dana admitted Burns was telling the truth.

I don't know why Dana likes Colby so much. He's not a massive draw. I certainly can't recall him really moving the needle.

They should feed Colby to Shavkat. See how well his pitter patter punches do against him.

 

[Taytro]

I heard that too, but landing leg kicks isn't the same as landing body kicks and is rightfully not scored equally. He was throwing the more damaging shots.

Even in the last sequence, you keep hearing the commentary about a calf kick "hurting" Izzy, but he immediately fires back a beautiful liver kick with the "hurt" leg. No comment from the booth. Another calf kick and a knee attempt, then goodnight.

Just the way you phrase your messages shows your bias toward Izzy here. The fact is Izzy landed a couple good body kicks, Alex landed a bunch more leg kicks. The accumulated damage of the leg kicks was visible on Izzy by his stance switching and reaction to the kicks. A few of Izzy's body kicks landed on Alex and got little to no reaction or accumulated no damage. It's clear that the leg kicks did more damage than the few body kicks Izzy landed.

Alex also landed his punches at a higher rate than Izzy in the first. I'd be curious to see the score cards were written for that first round because I thought Alex was clearly better but I'm not a judge and I don't even try to understand how they value things anymore since it's completely random half the time.

 

[MMC]

 

[I am not exposed]

Cool. I'm sure they won't get screwed over like Vancouver. Watch the Vancouver co-headliner be the Grasso rematch with Valentina. And Dana to spiel about it being historic with two women title fights on the same card!

 

[Chaels Arms]

I don't even know what to think of Adesanya v. Pereira anymore. Was Adesanya really playing possum or was he about to get knocked the **** out? That was almost the same exact sequence as round 5 in their last fight.

 

[MMC]

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Just the way you phrase your messages shows your bias toward Izzy here. The fact is Izzy landed a couple good body kicks, Alex landed a bunch more leg kicks. The accumulated damage of the leg kicks was visible on Izzy by his stance switching and reaction to the kicks. A few of Izzy's body kicks landed on Alex and got little to no reaction or accumulated no damage. It's clear that the leg kicks did more damage than the few body kicks Izzy landed.

Alex also landed his punches at a higher rate than Izzy in the first. I'd be curious to see the score cards were written for that first round because I thought Alex was clearly better but I'm not a judge and I don't even try to understand how they value things anymore since it's completely random half the time.

All three judges had Izzy up.

I like both of these guys, but I'm basing my opinion on my experience fighting muay thai. I can tell you that, while Izzy was taking those calf kicks, they weren't doing what you think they were doing to him, as evidenced by the power in his counter.

Alex landed calf kicks and looks scary. The judges had it right and Izzy dropped him with the same right hand he hit him with in the first fight.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

I don't even know what to think of Adesanya v. Pereira anymore. Was Adesanya really playing possum or was he about to get knocked the **** out? That was almost the same exact sequence as round 5 in their last fight.

He landed two bodyshots cleanly but none of the other strikes connected. That knee would have taken his head clean off if it had. The more I watch the ending, the more obvious it becomes how little damage Poatan had done.

 

[Taytro]

I don't even know what to think of Adesanya v. Pereira anymore. Was Adesanya really playing possum or was he about to get knocked the **** out? That was almost the same exact sequence as round 5 in their last fight.

I dont think Izzy was playing possum but I also don't think he was close to getting KO'd in that sequence. He seemed to be defending pretty well and landed a bomb of a counter. I think Pereira backed Izzy up to the cage but got over confident/over zealous and wasn't respecting Izzy's power (neither was I) so he pressured with his hands down and got caught clean. Seemed like a little low IQ move based on what we've seen from Pereira up until now.

 

[I am not exposed]

I dont think Izzy was playing possum but I also don't think he was close to getting KO'd in that sequence. He seemed to be defending pretty well and landed a bomb of a counter. I think Pereira backed Izzy up to the cage but got over confident/over zealous and wasn't respecting Izzy's power (neither was I) so he pressured with his hands down and got caught clean. Seemed like a little low IQ move based on what we've seen from Pereira up until now.

I concur.

 

[Taytro]

I don't know why Dana likes Colby so much. He's not a massive draw. I certainly can't recall him really moving the needle.

They should feed Colby to Shavkat. See how well his pitter patter punches do against him.

Becuase the alternative is a 3rd Usman fight or a Belal Mohammed fight. Both of which moves the needle significantly less than the tiny bit that Colby moves it. At least some people will tune in to see Colby potentially get KO'd, no one is tuning in to watch Belal fight for the title.

Edit: For clarification, I like Belal and think he deserves the shot... But I'm not making any plans around watching a card that he's headlining.

 

[I am not exposed]

All three judges had Izzy up.

I like both of these guys, but I'm basing my opinion on my experience fighting muay thai. I can tell you that, while Izzy was taking those calf kicks, they weren't doing what you think they were doing to him, as evidenced by the power in his counter.

Alex landed calf kicks and looks scary. The judges had it right and Izzy dropped him with the same right hand he hit him with in the first fight.

Looked and this is correct.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Has anyone seen Belal's shitposting on Reddit? It's hilarious how active he is

 

[I am not exposed]

Becuase the alternative is a 3rd Usman fight or a Belal Mohammed fight. Both of which moves the needle significantly less than the tiny bit that Colby moves it. At least some people will tune in to see Colby potentially get KO'd, no one is tuning in to watch Belal fight for the title.

Edit: For clarification, I like Belal and think he deserves the shot... But I'm not making any plans around watching a card that he's headlining.

Pretty sure they are giving Belal to Shavkat as well. Which I will most definitely watch.

Got to feel bad for Belal and Dariush.

 

[Taytro]

Pretty sure they are giving Belal to Shavkat as well. Which I will most definitely watch.

Got to feel bad for Belal and Dariush.

Yes and no. Its the entertainment business, they have to sell fights so they're going to push the guys they've already sunk marketing money into or guys who have built some kind of brand before they push the quiet guy who earned it by fighting his way to the top.

Dariush and Belal both deserve a shot based on their past performances but neither of them sells or has built a brand that would sell yet so what's in it for the UFC? They'd probably sell more tickets by having me in there for a title than they would with Belal or Dariush.

I'll definitely watch Belal vs Shavkat. From an entertainment standpoint, I like that more than the title fight, could be very fun. From a rankings/logic standpoint... Belal shouldn't be fighting down the rankings. They're doing him dirty with that one.

 

[chicagoskycam]

Surprised to see all the posts about Izzy post-fight, he has always done this sort of stuff. A good career for Masvidal, it seemed like when he finally realized what he should be doing in there, he got old. The timing was off big time last night.

I really thought Izzy was done and those consecutive right crosses, damn! These two are going to fight again.

 

[CDJ]

ngl I think him mocking Pereiras kid was hilarious, it’s so unnecessary and petty that it was maybe the funniest thing he could do

Valuable lesson learned in humility!

 

[I am not exposed]

ngl I think him mocking Pereiras kid was hilarious, it’s so unnecessary and petty that it was maybe the funniest thing he could do

Valuable lesson learned in humility!

The irony.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Jorge penciled in for a cabinet position in the next Trump administration lol

Better chance that they'll be cell mates.

 

[h2]

Masvidal made 2019 fun as a MMA fan. I wish he found that peak earlier. His timing looked off vs Burns, right call to hang up the gloves.

I thought Pereira was looking great until he got slept. What a bomb of a KO. Hopefully there's no immediate rematch, I'm kinda getting annoyed with that trend.

 

[CDJ]

Yeah Masvidal looked shopworn. Very hesitant

 

[tacogeoff]

damn it was tough seeing Izzy pull that dub out. was really hoping alex knocked him out again. oh well 3-1 vs Izzy in combat sports is a pretty darn good record. wonder if he will move up in weight now

 

[m9]

Will be interested in what happens next at 185. You could do the trilogy which I would normally be against right away.. but there are also not many contenders. Chimaev and Jan both apparently options, but I would want either guy to get a win at 185lbs first.

Adesanya likes fighting often so I think I would just book him vs DDP this summer. He's winning fights and the timeline probably works. Then just go from there.

I would expect the trilogy next, though.