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People used to always hate Jon Jones and called him phony and that was always bang-on to me because he acted one way but was obviously a disaster behind the scenes. Even on this forum we had talked about it for years and people wanted him to just embrace that he was a dick and play the heel role.
I guess I just don't see the "phony" with Usman? I get not liking him because you find him boring, even though he's had some great fights too. I even get not liking him because he's taken out Masvidal or Colby, who are obviously more popular fighters. You'll have a vocal minority who are convinced he's on steroids. You'll even have a segment of MMA fans who are basically cheering against him because he's black & how he promotes his culture.. even though that group will never admit they exist.
I find him an extremely confident guy who is very good at what he does. People being mad that high-end athletes can be confident or bordering on cocky is always amazing to me. These guys are competitive as hell and yeah they can be cocky, but that doesn't make them all bad guys. His moment with Woodley's Mom after he won the title was really cool.
Moments like that and what we saw from Edwards after he won are one of the great parts of the sport. You want big moments, guys living out their dream, getting emotional. It's great to see. None of Tyron Woodley, Kamaru Usman, or Leon Edwards are my favorite fighters. I don't find any particularly exciting in the cage or interesting personalities. But they've combined for some huge, fun moments.
Reading these last few pages and I've realized that I'm probably a bit insolated in terms of how much I consume from other fans. Obviously I'm active here, but generally the MMA fans here are pretty cool other than things getting a bit wild some times after Conor fights or whatever. I have a small MMA friend group who don't really love/hate fighters, they just watch the fights. If they don't like Usman, it's because they've watched 4 of his fights and 3-1/2 have been boring. When I go to live UFCs, the fans are 90% great and even that annoying 10% is mostly just drunk and as someone whose been in that 10% a few times I get that part too. It sounds like the Twitter MMA stuff is a bit of a mess, so I'm glad I've stayed away from that.
I guess I just don't see the "phony" with Usman? I get not liking him because you find him boring, even though he's had some great fights too. I even get not liking him because he's taken out Masvidal or Colby, who are obviously more popular fighters. You'll have a vocal minority who are convinced he's on steroids. You'll even have a segment of MMA fans who are basically cheering against him because he's black & how he promotes his culture.. even though that group will never admit they exist.
I find him an extremely confident guy who is very good at what he does. People being mad that high-end athletes can be confident or bordering on cocky is always amazing to me. These guys are competitive as hell and yeah they can be cocky, but that doesn't make them all bad guys. His moment with Woodley's Mom after he won the title was really cool.
Moments like that and what we saw from Edwards after he won are one of the great parts of the sport. You want big moments, guys living out their dream, getting emotional. It's great to see. None of Tyron Woodley, Kamaru Usman, or Leon Edwards are my favorite fighters. I don't find any particularly exciting in the cage or interesting personalities. But they've combined for some huge, fun moments.
Reading these last few pages and I've realized that I'm probably a bit insolated in terms of how much I consume from other fans. Obviously I'm active here, but generally the MMA fans here are pretty cool other than things getting a bit wild some times after Conor fights or whatever. I have a small MMA friend group who don't really love/hate fighters, they just watch the fights. If they don't like Usman, it's because they've watched 4 of his fights and 3-1/2 have been boring. When I go to live UFCs, the fans are 90% great and even that annoying 10% is mostly just drunk and as someone whose been in that 10% a few times I get that part too. It sounds like the Twitter MMA stuff is a bit of a mess, so I'm glad I've stayed away from that.