UFA defencemen- Is one of them the answer?

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Do you think any of these UFA defenceman may be the answer to our RHD problem? (read OP for more)

  1. Justin Schultz

    0.6%
  2. Mike Green

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Sami Vatanen

    7.8%
  4. TJ Brodie

    22.1%
  5. Chris Tanev

    30.5%
  6. Travis Hamonic

    17.5%
  7. Justin Braun

    7.1%
  8. Radko Gudas

    24.7%
  9. Kevin Shattenkirk

    1.3%
  10. Jan Ruta

    0.6%
  11. Dylan DeMelo

    37.0%
  12. None of the above (only a trade will fill our RHD need)

    9.1%
  13. None of the above (our D if fine as-is)

    2.6%
  14. Other/I don't know/I'm a bot/I'm indecisive

    5.8%
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  1. nuck Pelgrane

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    There are actually a bunch of right shot D coming as UFAs and it is not a players market with the cap and expansion looming. I am not saying Tanev in particular but I think terms and AV for this cohort are going to be pretty low. Assuming Van doesn't keep him I wouldn't rule it out.
     
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    Ideally close to the Santini deal. 3x $1.416M
     
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    Or the Mayfield one too. I think we are in wishful thinking territory now though.
     
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  4. namttebih Registered User

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    I'd be pretty happy with anything under 2 TBH. I agree with most of the posters here however, he needs to get a good look on the right side before any long term decisions are made.
     
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    Hoping we get Tanev. Another hometown boy who plays the style we need (defensive defenceman). I think he'd pair perfectly with Rielly
     
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    I definitely think theyll take ankther swing at Brodie.

    Tanev too would be good, but they'd probably need to sign another guy too in case of him getting injured
     
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    Agreed - they'd need some additional veteran depth IMO.

    I wouldn't mind signing Tanev and then trying to get Gudas at the league minimum
     
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    I doubt you will get Gudas at league min and I also doubt we can add two UFA defensemen without some serious trimming up front which creates another set of problems
     
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    Agreed. Sandin, Lily, or new signing Lehtonen will need to grab a spot next year. We likely only get one FA D-man
     
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    I thought maybe Ceci back at 2 or 2.5
     
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  11. sittler rules!!! Registered User

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    Which again explains my argument of trading one of the 3 33 million boys. Y|a ain't tradin 34, JT was a signing so no. Marner is the odd man out. I will get flamed here for this as I do over and over. But logic dictates, if you want to keep Capt Morgan (he should be captain) then pay the piper.
     
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    I think all 3 may surprise us next.......year, whenever that is
     
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    2 of those 3 Dmen will need to likely be apart of next years team and be able to hold their own, and need to be pleasant surprises.

    Leafs only really have cap space to add ELC or cheap $1 mil or less deals to fill out the roster and that is after Barrie and Ceci walk for cap reasons.

    Sandin and Lehtonen IN and Barrie and Ceci OUT.

    That leaves enough money to re-sign Dermott and that is our Leafs defense next year (barring a trade of an expensive forward).

    Rielly ------- XXXX
    Muzzin ---- Holl
    Dermott -- Lehtonen
    Sandin ---- Marincin
     
  14. ACC1224 Keeping it real, someone has to.

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    Hopefully surprise in a good way.
     
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    One of the things that they were talking about with Brodie was that he may want to go down south to play due to his wife’s MS.....


    The science on that is suspect, but if that’s what they believed that would be all that matters I guess.

    but now with the south blowing up.... and knowing how they are with viruses etc. You would have to think that might cause him to pause on wanting to go to Arizona/Dallas/la with an Immune compromised wife.

    Toronto prob would be a great spot for him.
     
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    Nice post. Curious what Rutta is looking like Cap hit wise.

    I think we need to rethink our third line and move AJ or Kappy at least. Otherwise we have no D cash.
     
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    Evolving-Wild apparently projects a 2 year, $1.1M deal.
     
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    Sound like our price range :)
     
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    IF he could stay healthy Tanev might be the answer
     
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    I realize the cap issues Tampa will have, but why would they let him walk (at this cap hit) instead of resigning him and search for cap relief somewhere else ?
     
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    Great option, IMO.
    Assuming Barrie and Ceci are gone how much cap space will be left?
     
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    I guess around 1.5 M without Mikheyev and Dermott signed
     
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    Yikes. Going to be an interesting off season.
    Wonder what a guy like Tanev would go for?
     
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    There might be some teams willing to trade for a player like Johnsson for example (cap relief), but there might be more teams wanting to trade a player like Johnsson. Interesting off season for sure.
     
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    I mean it would take some doing but it could be done.

    If Roberson shows he's ready you can ship out and save about 2.6 million,

    You can move Kerfoot and sign A replacement center like Brassard or Thornton and save another 2-2.5 million

    You can move Marincin just so he will f*** off and save another 750K

    and if Roberson shows he's not quite ready you can move Johnsson, sign Mikyhevy and still save about 2 million because I don't know if Mikyhevy gets more than 1.5 million that injury was BAD.

    And if you REALLY wanted to you COULD move Holl and save that 2 million.

    Look it's not easy but it's doable there are guys on this team you can shift around
     
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