Barry Amsterdam
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- Apr 2, 2013
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Super impressed with Smith Perrault and Stennberg in this gold medal game
First close game of the tourny.Sweden has just been lights out
No Russia = Not really the World title.
How much are we going to put into a small tournament? Yeah he was great at the U18s and he was great at the Hlinka.Ready to draft Otto Stenberg with 17th overall.
Even more true than I thought. The USA has actually dominate the play over the past 20 years. I stand corrected.A bit easier competition, but still a World title as well as earlier titles.
It’s just a showcase event.Even more true than I thought. The USA has actually dominate the play over the past 20 years. I stand corrected.
USA 10x
Canada 4x
Finland 2x
Russia 2x
Sweden 2X
Some guys who I thought didnt look too hot;
I remember after Ritchie led Canada in scoring at the Hlinka several posters said he was "lucky" and "not impressive."Calum Ritchie
I thought Ritchie was good for Canada at the U18s. I don't think he belongs with those other players listed.I remember after Ritchie led Canada in scoring at the Hlinka several posters said he was "lucky" and "not impressive."
Given his international and OHL post-season production, I have to believe Ritchie doesn't do things that make him look good, but does almost everything that produces good results.
Agree heavily on Moore. I didn't see any semblance of the soft skills required to be an offensive entity at the NHL level. He can skate for days which is really nice.I finally caught up on some of this and have a couple of random thoughts:
1. Smith is still the single most skilled player on the US team. I won't be shocked if he ends up on the wing in the NHL though, Glad we won't need to consider him.
2. Moore - not convinced he is a center at the NHL level either. I love the motor but he needs to learn to play at different speeds to develop offensively. Not as smart with the puck as Smith but much more honest of a player. 9 is too high for him. If he was 6'1, I could see the case for him there. People are drunk on his skating.
3. Willander - we probably overrate him because he is a righty, but I could probably get behind him at 18 oa. Would prefer to package 2nds to move up if still on board at the end of the first day.
4. Wood - I am far more comfortable with him than I was a week ago. Skating isn't good but looks better against his actual peers. He has capacity to improve it given his age though. Would be a nice compliment for what we have in the system. Me like
5. Leonard - totally on board at 9 even though I have seen him play better.
6. Endstrom - yes please. Would even consider him at 18oa
7. Stenberg - not sure what he actually is in the NHL, but was clearly very effective. I feel like I should like him more.
8, ASP - not for me.
9. Barlow - not great but I have also seen better and am not giving up on him
10. Dvorsky - more comfortable with him but still have some reservations if you think he is a center
Yeah he is a tough one for me.I finally caught up on some of this and have a couple of random thoughts:
2. Moore - not convinced he is a center at the NHL level either. I love the motor but he needs to learn to play at different speeds to develop offensively. Not as smart with the puck as Smith but much more honest of a player. 9 is too high for him. If he was 6'1, I could see the case for him there. People are drunk on his skating.
I'm in the same boat. I'm keeping him high since it's hard to find guys with his profile, but I acknowledge the risk of just getting a Cogliano. Ideally he's a Larkin, he probably ends up somewhere in between.Yeah he is a tough one for me.
I just feel like once he gets off that Development team he can have a Larkin-esque development playing college hockey. But there are more outcomes than that.
My concern would be he becomes Andrew Cogliano 2.0
It is hard to evaluate players like him that get all the secondary opportunities on that UDSP team.
Cogliano is exactly who comes to mind when I think about Moore.I'm in the same boat. I'm keeping him high since it's hard to find guys with his profile, but I acknowledge the risk of just getting a Cogliano. Ideally he's a Larkin, he probably ends up somewhere in between.
I get the ppg argument, but Stenberg has been way more impressive in every international game that I've seen. I havent watched any of his club games, but I watched him in last years u18, the Hlinka, and now this tourney. He's consistently stood out, and not just because of his production. He just pops when you watch him vs his peers. I would have absolutely no issue with taking him at 17 (lets go Panthers!).How much are we going to put into a small tournament? Yeah he was great at the U18s and he was great at the Hlinka.
Being under a PPG at the J20 level in your draft season at 17/18 is not good.
Dower Nilsson literally had way better production on the exact same team. Are we going to prioritize <10 games in a tournament over 20-30 games in league play? I don't know if that is a good idea.