Value of: Tyler Toffoli to Boston

[Ollie Weeks]

Kings are over flowing with D prospects.

Really? I see Clague, maybe Anderson and a slew of 24-26 year old tweeners that havent shown much yet. Likely another high end forward drafted this year too, so if LA is snagging prospects via trade, D is a good place to start.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I was saying it would cost 1st + Heinen/Donato. Didn’t think Bruins would be receptive to that price but Toffoli is worth a 1st + prospect easily

The first could even be conditional on making the playoffs this season or it moves to 2020.

 

[easton117]

I was saying it would cost 1st + Heinen/Donato. Didn’t think Bruins would be receptive to that price but Toffoli is worth a 1st + prospect easily

Ah makes more sense lol.

Doubt they move a first this year. They’re too good to finish in the bottom 5. But no team can keep piling up injuries the way they have and expect to keep up in the playoff race. That pick might be a high one.

Who know with them though. If their goalies continue stealing games they might be fine. Hard to figure them out this year.

 

[YP44]

Just send us a pick and it’s done.

nope. Toffoli should be dealt for a prospect or prospects. A pick will take 3 years before they make an impact at which point in time Doughty, Kopitar and Quick will be well past their productive years...well maybe not Drew.

Point is Toffoli needs to be dealt for someone who can contribute sooner than a pick would

 

[YP44]

Really? I see Clague, maybe Anderson and a slew of 24-26 year old tweeners that havent shown much yet. Likely another high end forward drafted this year too, so if LA is snagging prospects via trade, D is a good place to start.

agreed. Especially of it is a RHD

 

[Fat Elvis]

Sure Boston wouldn't rather have Carter?
Donato+Forsbacka-Karlsson+2nd
Carter+Nate Thompson

 

[compan]

Would do a deal around Heinen or Donato for sure. If Heinen or Donato + 2nd gets it done, I'm all for it. I'd prefer for the Bruins to keep their 1st this year since we traded it last year.

If I was LA, I'd want Gryz with the level of play he brings.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Sure Boston wouldn't rather have Carter?
Donato+Forsbacka-Karlsson+2nd
Carter+Nate Thompson

34 yr old, underperforming, and 3 more years of a 5.2m cap hit...whats not to love?

 

[Sheppy]

Lock it up then. Boston’s 1st is going to be too late and they likely don’t want to move Donato or Heinen

I'd pack their bags.

 

[bbfan419]

Sure Boston wouldn't rather have Carter?
Donato+Forsbacka-Karlsson+2nd
Carter+Nate Thompson

There is no way the Bruins take Carter unless David Backes is going back to even out salary, Backes has 1 year less than Carter remaining. The Bruins can't keep adding these guys on the wrong side of 30 and be saddled with too many of those aging vet contracts moving forward. I would do JFK + Zboril + Backes for Carter and you can keep Thompson and we keep the 2nd rd. pick.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Would do a deal around Heinen or Donato for sure. If Heinen or Donato + 2nd gets it done, I'm all for it. I'd prefer for the Bruins to keep their 1st this year since we traded it last year.

If I was LA, I'd want Gryz with the level of play he brings.

Would you do both and keep the pick out of it. Kings are looking at a retool and need depth. Outside your 1st I don’t think we’d be interested in a 2nd

 

[Fat Elvis]

34 yr old, underperforming, and 3 more years of a 5.2m cap hit...whats not to love?

You think he's unappealing on paper, wait until he hits the ice....

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

34 yr old, underperforming, and 3 more years of a 5.2m cap hit...whats not to love?

To be fair, you just described the average of the entire Kings' roster this year.

It's no surprise Pearson had 1 assist in 17 games then right back to his career averages in Pittsburgh.

Carter had 3 seasons in a row of 62, 66, 66, and last season even coming back from the career threatening injury scored at a--wait for it--40 goal, 66 point pace.

It's a gamble on his age and health for sure but pretty sick of people pretending each member of the Kings is only worth their last 20 games when they're ALL terrible. The guy people want to trade for in this thread is struggling just as hard as Carter.

 

[compan]

Would you do both and keep the pick out of it. Kings are looking at a retool and need depth. Outside your 1st I don’t think we’d be interested in a 2nd

I think it would feel a little rich on our end with what Heinen was able to achieve last season (slower this season of course), but I feel like it's possible in a much bigger trade.

 

[BruinsBtn]

There’s a rather large contingent of Bruin fans that would drive Heinen to LA if that’s all the Kings asked for.

Not sure what the team thinks of him though. But he’s running out of lines they could try him on

Last year:
Heinen: 47 points in 77 games as a rookie
Toffoli: 47 points in 82 games

...and he's three years younger, way cheaper and not a UFA for 4-5 years.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Lol Carlo is so overrated

 

[easton117]

Last year:
Heinen: 47 points in 77 games as a rookie
Toffoli: 47 points in 82 games

...and he's three years younger, way cheaper and not a UFA for 4-5 years.

If he continues playing like he is Heinen won’t have to worry about being a UFA in 4 years.

Unless the Swiss league has similar rules. Maybe then.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Really? I see Clague, maybe Anderson and a slew of 24-26 year old tweeners that havent shown much yet. Likely another high end forward drafted this year too, so if LA is snagging prospects via trade, D is a good place to start.

Bruins seem to have a lot of young defenders with some good potential

Gryz
Urho
Zboril
Lauzon
Clifton

 

[Troublesome 85]

Lol Carlo is so overrated

In some ways yes.

Bruins fans tend to overrate him because hes like 6'4, RHD(team doesnt have many young rhd} and surprised everyone his first year with how well he played.

However last 2 playoffs he has been injured.

 

[evanreynolds1116]

Really? I see Clague, maybe Anderson and a slew of 24-26 year old tweeners that havent shown much yet. Likely another high end forward drafted this year too, so if LA is snagging prospects via trade, D is a good place to start.

Well I’d say our top D prospects are: Brickley, Clague, Anderson, and Phillips.

Then the next tier probably:
Strand, Walker

I don’t know where LaDue stands. They’re so back and forth with him

 

[Reaper45]

Well I’d say our top D prospects are: Brickley, Clague, Anderson, and Phillips.

Then the next tier probably:
Strand, Walker

I don’t know where LaDue stands. They’re so back and forth with him

I guess I should clarify that the Kings have a lot of bodies on the blue line. If we trade Toffoli for defense or picks the Bruins dont want to deal what I'd want for him.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Lol Carlo is so overrated

You look at stats only and in all the worst ways, so a massive grain of salt here.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Lock it up then. Boston’s 1st is going to be too late and they likely don’t want to move Donato or Heinen

Think about it for a second.

If LA is trading Toffoli it's because LA is packing it in and rebuilding. They need secondary scoring, so if they trade Toffoli that makes the problem worse. Therefor they must be looking for futures if they trade him.

If BOS is looking to add Toffoli it's because they need secondary scoring to contend. Thus trading a Top 4 D makes no sense, as no team that wants to contend tries to get weaker at D for the playoffs.

So the "Carlo".... idea just makes zero sense given the kind of deal this would be. LA would be getting futures or they aren't trading Toffoli. They aren't going to get 1 = NHL player at this point in the season.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Kings not giving away Toffoli or are they rebuilding.Blake and Luc are retooling.All these threads for Kings players are hilarious with the low balling.Blakes doesnt have to trade Toffoli nor is he going to give away Toffoli for a crap return.Give to get.

Where is the lowball in this thread? The OP asked for what they'd be looking for. Not one single person (before your post) made a lowball offer.

 

[Dr Quincy]

An offer I put on the Bruins board was

TT, Kyle Clifford and a pick for Acciari, Kampfer, Cehlarik and a pick

but for this topic I will switch it up.

Heinen, Acciari, Cehlarik and Kampfer/Zboril for TT, Clifford and a pick.

Bruins get their 2nd line RW and someone who can defend teammates Kings get some young pieces.

I stand corrected..... THIS is a lowball offer.