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mas0764

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And Colorado and Tampa just spent a fortune at the deadline to win cups. Whether they resigned the guys or not means nothing in the actual playoff run to win


I’d never hurt you like that

When you trade a first for a 25 year old player that you have the cap room and desire to resign that becomes a good value usage of your first round pick.
I don't think these deadline additions improve the team's chances of winning the Cup as much as is being theorized.

How bad were the the Rangers last year prior to making deals if after all they did it took Pitt and Canes to 7 game series? Did those teams add a lot at the deadline? What did Tampa add that allowed them to beat the Rangers?

Other teams make moves which makes this just keeping up with the Jones so to speak.

My take, the best players on a team, playing better than the other teams best players is the key, and if one team just plain has better players who play well, they will likely win that series, sans injury.

From that point, if they are more or less equal, sure some depth moves make somewhat of a difference if injuries take place, yet I don't think the odds of the Rangers winning the Cup this year because they added at the deadline changed all that much.

It will still come down to how Panarin, Zbad, Fox, Shesty, play. If they all play well, then only does any positive or negative play from the secondary/tertiary guys matter.

Agreed, this has been my point. Add to shore up your glaring holes with seconds, thirds, etc. But if you have to pay a first because you are missing an elite first line winger, well, you aren’t getting one at the deadline anyway likely, and guess what…. Your big horses probably aren’t good enough to keep up with the Mackinnons and Crosbys anyway.
 

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There was no future for Gaut on this team. He wasn't gonna magically put it together in crunch time.
Motte is a better fit for now. I make that trade all day.
 
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Really surprised Martin Rucinsky isn't on that list. Was he signed twice and traded for the other time? Not sure why I thought we traded for him twice.

Martin Ručinský was traded a total of 5 times.

2 of these trades involved the Rangers, but only once did we acquire him in a trade. All transactions involving the Rangers below:

03/12/2002: Acquired Martin Ručinský + Roman Lyashenko from DAL for Barrett Hesten and Manny Malhotra
10/25/2002: Martin Ručinský signs as an unrestricted free agent with STL
08/28/2003: Martin Ručinský signs as an unrestricted free agent with NYR
03/09/2004: Acquired Martin Grenier + R.J. Umberger from VAN for Martin Ručinský
08/03/2005: Martin Ručinský signs as an unrestricted free agent with NYR
08/02/2006: Martin Ručinský signs as an unrestricted free agent with STL

Martin Ručinský had 3 stints with the New York Rangers, but 2 were as a free agent signing.
 
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Agreed, this has been my point. Add to shore up your glaring holes with seconds, thirds, etc. But if you have to pay a first because you are missing an elite first line winger, well, you aren’t getting one at the deadline anyway likely, and guess what…. Your big horses probably aren’t good enough to keep up with the Mackinnons and Crosbys anyway.
Motte helps with the PK, and he has a motor 5on5. I have no issue with them trading for him. Yet they probably should have used later round picks instead of a cheap extension, RFA, 4th liner like Gauthier. Rangers don't seem to think they'll need RWs next season, strange.

The bigger waste in assets was for Tarasenko and Mikkola. Had they tried in earnest to develop Kravtsov, Jones all season they may not have even needed either of them and could have found lesser expensive depth for those positions. Harpur playing, and his extension was for what? Them holding onto Hajek all year, again what was the point to that?

Similarly with Center, Rydahl, or just use Brodzinski, instead they wasted time with Carpenter and picked up a lesser player than either in Leschyshyn. If they wanted an in house solution, how about hiring some coach/skills specialist who could teach the current centers to win a face-off?

Who plays RW for the Rangers next year? How about the top two spots, Kakko and? Now who plays the bottom 2 spots, Vesey and? How about 3rd pair LD? They did not solve any of the roster holes they had this whole season by importing a bunch of UFAs for those positions.
 
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He made Leschyshyn good. Best trade ever.
 

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Hey Spike, you got a Motte injury update? Actually, does *anyone* know?
"Day to day, upper body injury"

Oh, and no suspension for Watson...I didn't see it posted anywhere else here, but then I haven't exactly dug through every page of every thread.

Just pointing that out since it makes Miller's 3 games look even more ridiculous (1 would have been more reasonable for a guy with no history who claims it was an accident, spoke to Doughty, and Doughty hasn't really said anything negative about Miller after it happened seemingly indicating he accepted the apology).
 
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I don’t mind Miller getting three, it is what it is. But the league basically condones headshots with their negligence. End of the day, ottawa is rewarded for cynical shortcut hockey.
 
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I don’t mind Miller getting three, it is what it is. But the league basically condones headshots with their negligence. End of the day, ottawa is rewarded for cynical shortcut hockey.
The stupidest part is how they claimed the head wasn't targeted nor the principal point of contact. That makes no sense. Shoulder directly -> head, head snaps back. How is it not the principal point of contact?
 

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The stupidest part is how they claimed the head wasn't targeted nor the principal point of contact. That makes no sense. Shoulder directly -> head, head snaps back. How is it not the principal point of contact?
NHL: ‘The Ottawa guy was targeting the stanchion *behind* Motte’s face. Serves him right’.
 

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I’m honestly surprised Tyler lasted as long as he did. This looked like the third serious injury he sustained since coming back to me. I think the first one happened on his first shift.

This is a nice player but he is a friggin injury magnet.
 

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I’m honestly surprised Tyler lasted as long as he did. This looked like the third serious injury he sustained since coming back to me. I think the first one happened on his first shift.

This is a nice player but he is a friggin injury magnet.
As much as everyone no doubt hates Watson for the hit, this was the reason when all those "who's the last TDL acquisiton the Rangers should get" polls came out, I picked Watson. He's a hard hitter for the forward group, illegal hits aside, and would immedately turn a 4th line of him Goodrow and Vesey into a sustained offensive zone pressure, PITA to play against line that can help wear down opposing D which is what GG wants.

I like Motte, and he hits people, but the injuries were always a concern, he's not that big, so the hits aren't as hard, and Watson's offense is better.
 

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As much as everyone no doubt hates Watson for the hit, this was the reason when all those "who's the last TDL acquisiton the Rangers should get" polls came out, I picked Watson. He's a hard hitter for the forward group, illegal hits aside, and would immedately turn a 4th line of him Goodrow and Vesey into a sustained offensive zone pressure, PITA to play against line that can help wear down opposing D which is what GG wants.

I like Motte, and he hits people, but the injuries were always a concern, he's not that big, so the hits aren't as hard, and Watson's offense is better.
Perhaps he just wasn’t available? I’m all for a physical presence that can play on the fourth line. I like Motte a lot, just too injury prone.
 

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The stupidest part is how they claimed the head wasn't targeted nor the principal point of contact. That makes no sense. Shoulder directly -> head, head snaps back. How is it not the principal point of contact?
The league interprets the rules however it wishes, whatever’s expedient.
With regard to head injuries they’ve consistently trivialized the consequences and under-punished offenders.
The question is ‘why?’
 
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