He was extremely noticeable last night yet had the least amount of ice time for forwards, making the most of his shifts. He also only has 3 points in the playoffs but seems like he has or set up so many more chances. Last night alone he nearly had that goal and he set Colton up right in front that should have been another.
Player Discussion: Tyler Johnson
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- Jun 17, 2009
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I like that Cooper rewarded him with some time on the 1st PP unit last night. He was buzzing.
I was begging for TJ to be moved prior to Kuch going down. He’s a Center and still capable of being a difference maker.
He’s a center. Still a damn good one. Dominate as a 4C. A big part of the culture flip here.
Thanks TJ.
He’s a center. Still a damn good one. Dominate as a 4C. A big part of the culture flip here.
Thanks TJ.
bov
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- Nov 13, 2010
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Still a good hockey player. Nothing has changed. Time for haters to admit they gave him way too much heat, but it'll never happen.
Outside of a handful of games all season, he has been perfectly fine. No longer a top end offensive threat but always hustles and plays responsibly. Nice to see him get some shine in the playoffs.
Outside of a handful of games all season, he has been perfectly fine. No longer a top end offensive threat but always hustles and plays responsibly. Nice to see him get some shine in the playoffs.
Such a feel good story that his time with us is ending on a good note, scoring big goals and making big plays.
9th inning of the TJ farewell tour.
/salute
/salute
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
The biggest issue with Johnson all season was no motivation, which is granted considering your team just put you on waivers and tried to actively trade you. He's looked fantastic these playoffs, this 4th line has been buzzing.
Big props to him tonight.
Big props to him tonight.
- Jan 23, 2017
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As fun as it has been seeing Johnson back to being an effective player, you just can't take such a small sample size and choose to keep him based on that. Not after he has been more or less terrible for quite a while. I wish all the best for him and hope he can still play a lengthy NHL career, but moving him this summer is the only sensible option.
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By the way, can we take a moment to talk about Johnson's profile picture on Eliteprospects?
Why did you gotta do him dirty like that
Why did you gotta do him dirty like that
I have 2 nephews and for their generation TyJo was kinda their Marty St. Louis. It's sad that he's probably gone soon. He's a great person from all accounts, really gave us so many awesome moments. Yeah a lot of us here turned on him last year and I regret that considering how he carried himself through the good and the bad. We are very fortunate to have had him for as long as we did. He is one of the best Bolts of all time.
Props to TJ, who’s been buzzing all playoffs back at center. I do believe his value has increased (or negative value decreased) with his playoff performance. That said, if it’s too expensive to move him he needs to play center next year. He looked good in the regular season as the 3C for a bit and I wouldn’t mind him in that role again if Seattle takes Guorde.
BoltzManConstant
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Yeah, there's a group of people here who love hot takes.
But I think the silent majority who were ready to move on from him were still justified. Those who love the guy for what he previously did for us, felt bad that JBB had to put him on waivers, always held out hope that he'd turn it around, but ultimately felt like it's time for TJ to go and agreed with JBB's moves (asking TJ to waive his NTC and then putting him on waivers) because we simply can't afford his lack of production at his cap hit -- I think those folks don't owe TJ an apology. And I think we can equally be excited for his recent success as the one or two people who were huge fans no matter what.
I wish that it had never come to this, and that he was still 2015 TJ, but even though he's playing better I don't think that guy's ever coming back.
I’d rather have Palat due to his shorter contract term and keeping the top line together. Just depends on how it all fits though. Again, I wonder what TJ looks like at 3C with say Goodrow and Joseph on his wing?
I mean his contract is in place. So while this is true it's not like a UFA playing for his big contract.
LightningStrikes
Champa Bay Lightning
- Nov 24, 2009
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I don’t think he’s ready to go to Europe to play hockey or ride the bus in the A. NHL teams weren’t ready to pick him up for free so…
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
I could see this playoff run maybe turning some heads. Funny to think every team passed on him when he went to waivers.
People shouldn't complain about us over the cap when they all had a chance to take Johnny for free
People shouldn't complain about us over the cap when they all had a chance to take Johnny for free
BoltzManConstant
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None of those are gonna be an outcome for TJ. He's a better hockey player than an AHLer would be, so he'll be in the NHL. The contract (or at at best, the buyout) is a sunk cost. He only got sent down in hopes that someone else wanted his contract (and later, for one game, for technical LTIR reasons).
There are three possibilities: 1) Tampa trades him to someone else who will pay him to play, 2) Tampa can't trade him and continues to pay him and play him, or 3) Tampa can't move him, buys him out, and some other NHL team signs him for much less than $4.5m to play for them.
(I suppose there's a 1a) where we trade him with retention but that feels really unlikely.)
In any case, Europe is definitely off the table, and the A just isn't worth it because all we'd do is save $1m of his cap hit while needing to replace him with a guy on a minimum contract (in other words, we'd be swapping TJ for some guy who would otherwise be in the AHL, all just to save $300k in cap space).
It's more about the contract than the level of play anyway. Somebody making his amount of money has to leave. And then probably another somebody. He's just the odd man out.
I'm really enjoying this last chapter though. He seemed like the leader of the Yzerman era AHL kids, and it was Johnson's play that allowed us to trade Cory Conacher, which brought in Ben Bishop, which turned us into a legit contender. And now ending his time with us as one of our better players... It's just a much better story than if we'd shoved him away to whomever is willing to take him.
Funnily enough, our best three players in this final series have been the Triplets.
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Discipline
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DrMartinVanNostrand
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It wasn't that they weren't ready to pick him up for free, it was that he came with a $5M cap hit andfour years (at the time) left on his contract attached to that. Is he a $5M player? And especially when cap space is such a valuable commodity like it is right now with the flat cap. Teams were wise not to pick him up.
CupsOverCash
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- Jun 16, 2009
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So happy for him. Will miss him actually since he's come up with some big plays for this team. Sucks we will have to move on from some guys 
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