Tyler Bozak - Positive or Negative impact on the team?

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  1. FishManSam

    FishManSam I pretend to be smart, I’m bad at it

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    Simple question, does have Bozak a positive influence to our team when he plays 20+ minutes or a a negative influence?

    Edit: Read my second post for better understanding of the question.
     
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  2. Negative influence.

    i have tried my best to not always be judgemental and blame things on him. But I can't help it, whenever I see him I feel angry.

    Bozo the Clown indeed, what a ****ing scrub of a player.
     
  3. Rare Jewel

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    3rd defense man.

    Effective, But not necessary.
     
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    Negative obviously. I really don't understand what the Leafs F.O. sees in him. He just isn't good at all.
     
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    Negative influence.

    I like to compare rosters to what the "average" SC winning team has at various roster positions.

    In saying that, you can be below average in some areas, but above average (relative to SC winning rosters, NOT relative to the average team in the league) in other areas, and remain competitive.

    But Bozak is FAR below the average for #1 C on a SC calibre team. Far below. Definitely a negative.
     
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    He's been pretty bad this season (especially with fumbled passes and missed chances). I liked his game last season and he seemed like a good fit for Carlyle's system, but he's been disappointing so far.
     
  7. Negative.

    He certainly can't provide offense. No debate on that. And he can't play defense too. Career minus player. Every season.

    Ideally, he shouldn't have influence on the game; but when he plays 23 minutes in a game, he will indeed have negative influence.
     
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    Hey I don't like Bozak but it's not like without him we magically become better. I just hate that Carlyle thinks that Bozak and Kessel will magically explode if not kept within 10 feet of one another.

    Our team would be better suited to either Kadri or Bolland being number 1/2 center with Bozak playing number 3.
     
  9. I'd rather have Kadri as #1C, Bolland as #2 C and Bozak as #3C.
     
  10. Chandrashekhar Limit

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    4M for winning face offs, and he hasn't even been doing that recently.
     
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    Bozak's not all that great but how can you call him a negative influence? Would the Leafs suddenly better if they scratched him and replaced him with Spencer Abbott? Or double shifted some other guy? :laugh:
     
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    of course, duh.

    but in all seriousness, I never undrstand the threads like this because it's all "well is he negative/positive." but you guys aren't even offeriing any other kind/type of solutions. as Stephen and others pointed out, if you take him out - it's not like we're the best team on the planet prepared to go 81-1.

    Bozak's not playing well, I'll admit,but as I commented in the GDT/PGT, the entire team looks like they are a step or two behind.
     
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    I don't see what the problem with Bozak is. He is the de facto number one we need, obviously not the one we want. Kadri or Bolland are just as if not more out of place in that role.
     
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    Getting real tired of Bozak.
     
  15. In the role this team uses Bozak often i.e. 1C and 1PP unit NEGATIVE

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    He doesn't do anything. It pisses me off so much. Ya he's great at shootouts and the pk but absolutely brutal at everything else.
     
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    Well Bozak was out of the lineup for Game 7 against Boston and look what happened there...
     
  18. FishManSam

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    You're both misunderstanding the question, this is as much a criticism on Bozak as it is Carlyle. It's not whether the team is better without Bozak, but rather if the team is better if other players take some of his time.

    Basically are we using our players as efficiently as possible?

    I'm glad we're 3-1 but we are quite lucky to be 3-1, we have not had one good game yet and honestly I'm concerned by how it will effect us later on in the season. We have been lucky and i would rather we acknowledge our weaknesses before they become problems.
     
  19. FWIW, Kadri was Kessel's center when Leafs scored 4th goal. Kessel -> Kadri -> GOAL.

    I can see that one missing the net in some another certain scenario. :naughty: ;)

    So let us not play what if games.
     
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    Frustrating to watch. I know it's not on him to be a 1st line centre, but man does he flub up the chances Kessel, JVR, Lupul create.
     
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    The Evidence is quite clear, since RC has played Bozak 20 mins per game and more than any other fwd on our team, The Leafs have been a playoff team.

    And we all know Winning is the king of all stats.
     
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    I know, somehow we generated 4 goals against Boston in a single game. I guess when you don't have a pylon playing 25mins a game with your best player on the 1st line, things happen.

    And stop kidding yourself bozak would of gotten shredded by Bergeron on the faceoff dot and killed defensively.
     
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    I like Bozak and I like what he brings to our PK. He's a great asset there.

    That said, I do have an issue with him getting #1 powerplay time. Kadri should be on the #1 unit and honestly, Bolland would probably look better on the #2 unit as he has finishing ability.
     
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    For the time on ice Carlyle uses him for, I'd say negative.
    BUT if he was given just 5 minutes less per game in more defensive situations, he'd be great. It's up to Carlyle to use him to his strengths and wake up and realize he has minimal offensive and power play value.
     
  25. Mr Scarface*

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    Exactly.
     

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