Kessel reminds me of Jarri Kurri. Great players but Edmonton never expected Kurri to lead them. I don't think he could have led a team the way people expect Kessel to lead Leafs. Kessel is very good at what he does. Stop expecting him to be what he isn't
Laugh at Phil all you want. He's always in top 5 scoring in the league.
I know what you mean, but Kurri was a very good defensive hockey player too. Something Phil is the opposite of. He also scored over 100 points(not looking it up, going off my memory) after Gretzky was traded.
He was a leader of that team, maybe not Messier impact. But that team still won a cup without 99. And he was a major reason why.
I believe the Leafs have 10 games left in January and 10 more in February. These are the last 20 games before the trade deadline. My question is: what changes do you want to see in this team during this stretch? For example in the first 5 games I simply want to see effort from every player on the team on every shift. This would be a start. I'd also like to see accountability during this stretch, i.e. ice time apportioned relative to effort and performance as to expectations of the coaching staff. Someone...some time has to start eradicating the dreaded Blue/White disease.Over the next 5 games I'd like to see some lines starting to click and an acceptance of, and adherence to, a new system (assuming there is one). Between games 11 and 15 I would think some moves would be attempted (not easy in a salary cap world I know) based on what was already known about certain players combined with this 10 game "trial" just completed. If nothing fits trade-wise during this 5 game stretch and then during the next 5 leading up to the trade deadline, then the changes will obviously happen at the draft and free agent deadline. I'm just curious what people are expecting,hoping to see, over this next 20 game stretch or, in fact, that 20 games is too small a window and you couldn't care less.
^ Doesn't want to keep the 24 year old Kadri @ $4.5 million, but wants to keep the 27 year old Cody Franson @ close to $6 million?
Leafs fans, lol.
Find me another 6'5'' right hand shot to play top pairing and first PP and lead your D in goals and points every year and I'll chuckle right along with you.
P.S. I said Kadri at 4.5 a copy would be fine with me.
Find me another 6'5'' right hand shot to play top pairing and first PP and lead your D in goals and points every year and I'll chuckle right along with you.
P.S. I said Kadri at 4.5 a copy would be fine with me.
Find me another 6'5'' right hand shot to play top pairing and first PP and lead your D in goals and points every year and I'll chuckle right along with you.
P.S. I said Kadri at 4.5 a copy would be fine with me.
Just because Franson plays top pairing on this crappy team doesn't make him a top pairing D-man. He's a top 4 guy but let's get real here..Cody Franson is not a top pairing guy. And we don't want to sign another long term cap killing contract. If we sign Franson for 5-6 years at 6 mil...here's our list
Kessel (8 years- 8 mil per)
Phaneuf ( 7 years- 7 mil per)
Clarkson (5 years- 5.25 mil per)
Franson ( 5-6 years- 6 mil per)
That's 26.25 million in cap space just for 4 players! how are we supposed to improve? We can't just give in every single time we have a free agent. Plus we're rebuilding Franson doesn't fit into the plans.
Franson has never finished an 82 game season playing anything better then a bottom pairing PP guy to date who puts up points, one good year in a contract year(which never happens ) and your willing to give him a retirement contract. currently his 2nd best season was a 48 game shorten year where he played on the bottom pairing with Mark Fraser. he's not a top pairing Dmen at this point. at best he's a top 4 guy. by no means is that a good contract for Franson.
Once again...
supply and demand. If he hits the open market, he'll be a 5.5-6 million dollar asset to whomever he signs with. He's also led the Leafs D in points for the last 2 years, has he not?
You dont think Philly or Boston will give him 5.5 a year? Keep dreaming...
^ Doesn't want to keep the 24 year old Kadri @ $4.5 million, but wants to keep the 27 year old Cody Franson @ close to $6 million?
Leafs fans, lol.
I want many of these suckers gone too you listed above. Good job.we keep franson ,only if we trade phaneuf,bozak,gardiner,kessel,lupul.
start the shanahan rebuild
Find me another 6'5'' right hand shot to play top pairing and first PP and lead your D in goals and points every year and I'll chuckle right along with you.
P.S. I said Kadri at 4.5 a copy would be fine with me.
Baffling, given the history of this team with handing out over-valued contracts, that fans want to do the same with Franson.
He's had one good stint of ~50 games, and people want him locked up long term lol?
Small sample size, or what?
Players at his age don't just magically turn into top pairing guys. Is it more likely that Franson has finally developed into a top player despite being a bottom 4 guy his entire career? Or is it more likely that he's elevated his play in a contract year?
This team has made so many contractual mistakes that it just can't afford to make another one with Franson. Let him go.
Also - it's about time this organization started loading up on under-valued deals; cheaper deals where guys are over-excelling based on what they are producing. Right now, they have too many over-valued, over-paid guys.
Letting Franson goes is part 1 of that transition.
Franson, Lupul and Reimer should be the first pieces dealt for anything resembling picks and young players.
Franson is definitely not a top pairing D, he only is here in Toronto because the other Dmen are crap or not ready.
You trade Franson in a heartbeat, and give minutes to Gardiner and Reilly to learn. They are our future not Franson. Franson gains us an opportunity to add to future. My guess is you can get a 1st rounder for this guy. In a deep draft believe me you can get a better part then Franson.
Baffling, given the history of this team with handing out over-valued contracts, that fans want to do the same with Franson.
He's had one good stint of ~50 games, and people want him locked up long term lol?
Small sample size, or what?
Players at his age don't just magically turn into top pairing guys. Is it more likely that Franson has finally developed into a top player despite being a bottom 4 guy his entire career? Or is it more likely that he's elevated his play in a contract year?
This team has made so many contractual mistakes that it just can't afford to make another one with Franson. Let him go.
Also - it's about time this organization started loading up on under-valued deals; cheaper deals where guys are over-excelling based on what they are producing. Right now, they have too many over-valued, over-paid guys.
Letting Franson goes is part 1 of that transition.