TSN ranks the top 25 NHL players of all time

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

That's nice to cherry pick one year at the end of his career but I'm thinking more about the numerous years before that where he really made a name for himself.

Let's take 84-85: Gretzky had 208 points. Most points by a player in 17-18? 108

100 point scorers in 84-85? 16. 100 point scorers in 17-18? 3.

My point is that Gretzky still put up points in eras where goal scoring was down. He put up 90 points the following season.

But sure, let's look at 1984-85. Do you know how many 200 point scorers there were in 84-85? One.

As you mention Gretzky had 208 points. The next nearest player was Jarri Kurri with 135. Hawerchuk with 130. Marcel Dionne with 126. He had 73 more points than the next closest guy. Compared to his peers that's how much better Gretzky was.

If it makes you feel better let's eliminate all of Gretzky's goals. Pretend he never scored one in his entire career. Do you know who the all-time NHL points leader would be?

(Hint: It rhymes with Bayne Betzky)

You set the bar high for insane statements by claiming Gibson is better than Roy, but then you managed to surpass it with your comments about Gretzky.

Kudos.

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

only 2 forwards on this list has less than a PPG career.

Both Habs from stacked teams that had the exclusive rights to pretty much any player they wanted in existence.

Hmmmmmm I wonder if a Habs fan made this list??

If your not familiar with scoring in the 20-30s maybe dont try to use it as an argument, no to mention your gibberish about the habs having “exclusive rights to pretty much any player they wanted in existence “

Educate yourself
https://thehockeywriters.com/habs-french-canadian-rule/

 

[nuxnuxnux]

lidstrom should be ahead of ovie and so should jagr (for now)

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

My point is that Gretzky still put up points in eras where goal scoring was down. He put up 90 points the following season.

But sure, let's look at 1984-85. Do you know how many 200 point scorers there were in 84-85? One.

As you mention Gretzky had 208 points. The next nearest player was Jarri Kurri with 135. Hawerchuk with 130. Marcel Dionne with 126. He had 73 more points than the next closest guy. Compared to his peers that's how much better Gretzky was.

If it makes you feel better let's eliminate all of Gretzky's goals. Pretend he never scored one in his entire career. Do you know who the all-time NHL points leader would be?

(Hint: It rhymes with Bayne Betzky)

You set the bar high for insane statements by claiming Gibson is better than Roy, but then you managed to surpass it with your comments about Gretzky.

Kudos.

Gretzky having that many assists just goes to further prove my point that everyone was scoring tons of goals during that era, so thank you.

Somehow Gretzky scoring 200 points when dozens of guys were scoring in the triple digits makes him the best of all time but a goalie posting a career .920+ sv % in an era when numerous goalies are above .910% means nothing because of uh.....da equipment iz too big.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Gretzky having that many assists just goes to further prove my point that everyone was scoring tons of goals during that era, so thank you.

Somehow Gretzky scoring 200 points when dozens of guys were scoring in the triple digits makes him the best of all time but a goalie posting a career .920+ sv % in an era when numerous goalies are above .910% means nothing because of uh.....da equipment iz too big.

Yes, your logic is airtight. I'm convinced.

I'd like to further discuss Gretzky but I'm busy listening to someone enlighten me about the world being flat.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Yes, your logic is airtight. I'm convinced.

I'd like to further discuss Gretzky but I'm busy listening to someone enlighten me about the world being flat.

Actually, the earth is dinosaur shaped. Look it up.

 

[Tuna Tatarrrrrr]

Not true, Leaf fans don't live in the past, for obvious reasons.

It's because the last Cup the Leafs won was even before the first NHL expansion, nothing to brag about.

 

[Gabranth]

Howe above Lemieux is a crime. Maurice Richard is too high. Crosby being #8 is fine with me. Jagr is way too low.

A few things that come to my mind.

 

[Kranix]

List seems about right except for the glaring omissions of Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, and Crawford.

 

[Haatley]

No Marner or Matthews?
Wtf?!

 

[NyQuil]

I think Ovie should be close to Crosby, Jagr and Hasek should be higher.

Overall it’s not terrible though - it is less about omissions and more about the rankings which is tough.

The article is from Dec 2017.

I wonder if Ovie’s Cup would change things.

 

[Goldenshark]

Lemieux is the real #2

 

[authentic]

Hasek as the 4th goalie is a bad, albeit unsurprising, take.

Yep. Him and Jagr are way too low.

 

[authentic]

Lemieux is the real #2

In all time lists that judge players strictly against their peers and also place a lot of weight on career length, they have the order of the top 4 correct. If it was based on pure talent he would be #1.

 

[Kranix]

No Bondra, No Al Iafrate?? Who made this list, Dick Irvin Jr?

 

[authentic]

Where is Toews?

Chilling comfortably outside the top 25 while Malkin is banging on the door of the top 100 screaming let me in.

 

[The Macho King]

I think Ovie should be close to Crosby, Jagr and Hasek should be higher.

Overall it’s not terrible though - it is less about omissions and more about the rankings which is tough.

Considering thousands of players have played in the NHL, being separated by a few spots toward the top does seem like they are "close".

 

[NyQuil]

Considering thousands of players have played in the NHL, being separated by a few spots toward the top does seem like they are "close".

It wouldn’t be so glaring if it wasn’t always the Canadian ranked higher.

 

[The Macho King]

It wouldn’t be so glaring if it wasn’t always the Canadian ranked higher.

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[NyQuil]

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That’s a bit of an overreaction I think.

It’s just a ranking - people debate them.

You just brushed skin cells off your face and palm for no reason.

I would face palm your face palm but that too would be an overreaction.

 

[daver]

It wouldn’t be so glaring if it wasn’t always the Canadian ranked higher.

When in doubt, play the national bias card.

 

[NyQuil]

When in doubt, play the national bias card.

I’m Canadian.

In what universe is Hasek the 5th best goalie of all time?

 

[Nadal On Clay]

No, Shutt pass to Lafleur, HE SCORES!

Now it’s: “Domi gives it to Gallagher, and he misses the net!”..

...A Montreal fan stuck on a time machine, how surprising!

 

[Incognito]

It wouldn’t be so glaring if it wasn’t always the Canadian ranked higher.

But in this case the Canadian actually deserves to be ranked higher, if only by a few spots.

 

[SenzZen]

BRB...

I'll find something to be outraged about...