True Believers Roll Call

[Brockon]

I just want to an excuse to hide warm hamburgers in my pants and then throw them on the ice at the end of the game.

I'm curious what Binnington would earn as a fan tribute if he went on a Hamburgler-esque run. His name doesn't exactly inspire anything, all I can think of is Beanie babies (Beanie-ton) or actual Beanies...

 

[LetsGoBooze]

With a healthy roster i believe they could have a run much like the beginning of last year and string together a few 3 game winning streaks etc.... However, i don't have much faith in the roster competing once the playoffs begin and i see more value in:
1. Adding a top-10 draft pick next year.
2. Trading a core-piece or two not only to re-shape the locker room but to bring in a top pairing LD or atleast a guy with top pairing upside.
3. Bring in a coach with a vision.
4. Name O'Reilly captain, once the new coaching structure is in place.

Honestly im re-signing Schenn and Pie(Don't know if he'll stay if he's stripped the C) in my scenario, I think we can turn it around but im looking at NEXT year as to when we can not only be competitive again, but also hopefully with the kids more developed also parlay that into playoff success going forward as well.

 

[Girth Butcher]

I Bleed Blue, like most of the many great posters who comment on this forum. I will follow the Blues, as I have for 50 years, and I hope to someday be rewarded for the emotional and financial support I have invested.

That said, I’m very hesitant to get too excited about the team. I like many of the players, and feel they are starting to get things sorted out and will be more competitive as the New Year approaches. However, I think they have dug themselves too big of a hole. It’s not just making up a few points, they have to climb over a lot of teams, and that is not easy to do.

While I am supportive, I just don’t believe this team has the attitude, aptitude, fortitude AND leadership to get there. I am hoping they do, but if they aren’t going to be competitive, they at least start building toward next year and beyond. Sell what you can, buy what you need, and build for the future.

 

[Spektre]

I thought this was going to be a Santa Clause thread

 

[mw2noobbuster]

I love this team and I think they're gonna go far in a year or two, I always cheer for a win. But the reality is that this team has to play lights out for basically the rest of the season to make the playoffs. With how bipolar this team has been, with inconsistent goaltending, it seems extremely unlikely.

 

[Bluesguru]

If Armstrong would of made 1 or 2 deals to shake up the team, then I could see a turn around. But sitting with your arms folded and just waiting for a sign on what direction to take does nothing for this team. But that's Doug. He's still looking for a sign.

 

[i aint Dunn yet]

 

[Majorityof1]

If Armstrong would of made 1 or 2 deals to shake up the team, then I could see a turn around. But sitting with your arms folded and just waiting for a sign on what direction to take does nothing for this team. But that's Doug. He's still looking for a sign.

Sometimes no action is better than whatever action happens to be available. When Armstrong is patient, he gets the best deals. When he is pressured into making a move, eg Miller or Oshie, he makes bad trades. I for one am glad he is not panicking.

What 1-2 moves do you recommend? Then ask yourself

1) Is the other team interested?
2) Can we get good value now with most of our best assets playing relatively poorly?
3) Do the moves address what's wrong with the team? (Corollary question, do you know what is wrong with the team?)
4) How does the new player fit in with our next coach/philosophy? (Corollary question, what is our next team philosophy/strategy?)
5) Besides the over-used an impossible to define/quantify roster shake-up, how does the move make us better going forward?

I am far from an Armstrong apologist. I want him gone. But if we are stuck with him, I want him patient and calculating as opposed to making trades for the sake of change. If you really analyze potential deals, there is no easy way to make this team better than it can be. Even in my ideal, best case scenario of trades, a lot has to break right and a lot of assumptions about what is wrong with the team have to be accurate for us to eventually be a better team than we already should be.

 

[Bluesguru]

Sometimes no action is better than whatever action happens to be available. When Armstrong is patient, he gets the best deals. When he is pressured into making a move, eg Miller or Oshie, he makes bad trades. I for one am glad he is not panicking.

What 1-2 moves do you recommend? Then ask yourself

1) Is the other team interested?
2) Can we get good value now with most of our best assets playing relatively poorly?
3) Do the moves address what's wrong with the team? (Corollary question, do you know what is wrong with the team?)
4) How does the new player fit in with our next coach/philosophy? (Corollary question, what is our next team philosophy/strategy?)
5) Besides the over-used an impossible to define/quantify roster shake-up, how does the move make us better going forward?

I am far from an Armstrong apologist. I want him gone. But if we are stuck with him, I want him patient and calculating as opposed to making trades for the sake of change. If you really analyze potential deals, there is no easy way to make this team better than it can be. Even in my ideal, best case scenario of trades, a lot has to break right and a lot of assumptions about what is wrong with the team have to be accurate for us to eventually be a better team than we already should be.

Nylander was all lined up for a straight up trade with Petro. You'd get a 22 year old kid, the 8th pick in his draft, truly a modern day offensive talent. That trade should of happened early in the year.

As far as what's wrong with the team, IMO this team could use 2 or 3 bowling balls in the lineup, guys that can hit and score to help gel the team more. But at this point do you try and save the season now or do you think about the future? At this point, I'm inclined to think about the future, and acquire young talent and picks. Either way, the Nylander deal would be good for the Blues.

 

[Itsnotatrap]

Me, checking in on the believers.

 

[TruBlu]

Nylander was all lined up for a straight up trade with Petro. You'd get a 22 year old kid, the 8th pick in his draft, truly a modern day offensive talent. That trade should of happened early in the year.

As far as what's wrong with the team, IMO this team could use 2 or 3 bowling balls in the lineup, guys that can hit and score to help gel the team more. But at this point do you try and save the season now or do you think about the future? At this point, I'm inclined to think about the future, and acquire young talent and picks. Either way, the Nylander deal would be good for the Blues.

Any trade involving parayko is a no go for me. He's a great selling point when the blues start negotiating with petro. Just look at how his game has elevated while he's been out.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

I’m back on

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Nobody is running away with those wildcard spots. The door is opening. If they win 8 of 10 or something I think they’re right there. One game under 50% point pace. I think that’s a good psychological accomplishment.

 

[simon IC]

Nylander was all lined up for a straight up trade with Petro. You'd get a 22 year old kid, the 8th pick in his draft, truly a modern day offensive talent. That trade should of happened early in the year.

As far as what's wrong with the team, IMO this team could use 2 or 3 bowling balls in the lineup, guys that can hit and score to help gel the team more. But at this point do you try and save the season now or do you think about the future? At this point, I'm inclined to think about the future, and acquire young talent and picks. Either way, the Nylander deal would be good for the Blues.

We need to tighten up defensively. This pertains as much to the forwards as to the actual defense corps, if not more so. How does adding a soft, defensively suspect forward at the expense of a solid two-way defenseman help this team at all? I want nothing to do with William Nylander.

 

[Zamadoo]

I'm on board the playoff train. I hope the Hawks draft Hughes and he sucks.

 

[Default]

It’ll happen. Trust the process.

Ok ok ok

 

[Stealth JD]

after looking at the standings in the West...again...it's clear that the Blues SHOULD make the playoffs...even after that disastrous start to the season. There is so much mediocrity from seeds 5-12, and an extremely good/bad stretch of 10-games could flip all of these standings on their head. The Blues have actually got to start feeling pretty good about things now that Yeo is out of the picture, the team is starting to get healthy and having a little bit of success. It will probably come down to the season series with Dallas as to whether or not the Blues will make the playoffs as those two teams should be battling for the final spot.

 

[Bluesguru]

We need to tighten up defensively. This pertains as much to the forwards as to the actual defense corps, if not more so. How does adding a soft, defensively suspect forward at the expense of a solid two-way defenseman help this team at all? I want nothing to do with William Nylander.

And yet the people here would go crazy if Kyrou resembled anything close to Nylander because he's theoretically in the same mold. Blues fans should be so lucky if he reaches that potential. I'm all for a tough team, and that's why I don't want any part of a Petro extension, but there is always room for a speedy, skilled forward who can score.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

... but there is always room for a speedy, skilled forward who can score.

Not if you ask all the people who had zero interest in Skinner in the offseason because he was "too soft" for this team.

 

[Stealth JD]

Nylander was all lined up for a straight up trade with Petro. You'd get a 22 year old kid, the 8th pick in his draft, truly a modern day offensive talent. That trade should of happened early in the year.

As far as what's wrong with the team, IMO this team could use 2 or 3 bowling balls in the lineup, guys that can hit and score to help gel the team more. But at this point do you try and save the season now or do you think about the future? At this point, I'm inclined to think about the future, and acquire young talent and picks. Either way, the Nylander deal would be good for the Blues.

If Army would have accepted a Nylander for Pietrangelo, one-for-one, trade with Toronto Stillman should have intervened and fired him on the spot. You don't trade true #1D guys who are established and in the prime of their careers for one-dimensional 2nd-line wingers. That's beyond asinine.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

If Army would have accepted a Nylander for Pietrangelo, one-for-one, trade with Toronto Stillman should have intervened and fired him on the spot. You don't trade true #1D guys who are established and in the prime of their careers for one-dimensional 2nd-line wingers. That's beyond asinine.

It's amazing to me that people dislike Pietrangelo. Truly amazing.

 

[Bluesguru]

If Army would have accepted a Nylander for Pietrangelo, one-for-one, trade with Toronto Stillman should have intervened and fired him on the spot. You don't trade true #1D guys who are established and in the prime of their careers for one-dimensional 2nd-line wingers. That's beyond asinine.

Stillman should of fired Army a long time ago. It was brilliant how Army hung on to Shattenkirk till the actual trade deadline and shortened his options. Would of served him right if Shattenkirk had hurt himself and was out for the year. If you think Army will net more than Nylander for Petro, then I disagree. See what Ottawa got for Karlsson as they waited till the end. Nylander is a 22 year old, top 10 pick, which the Blues might very well miss out on next year.

 

[Bluesguru]

It's amazing to me that people dislike Pietrangelo. Truly amazing.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Not if you ask all the people who had zero interest in Skinner in the offseason because he was "too soft" for this team.

My lukewarm interest in Skinner was mainly because I don't trust him to stay healthy when he's most needed. We'll see.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

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And? How have the Stars been doing?