Proposal: Troy Stecher for Kevin Fiala or Ondrej Kase

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There's not much conversation to be had regardless of how much you think I exaggerated. Kase is not someone that would be made available for a player of Stecher's caliber.

Your last statement could easily be expressed without silly hyperboles is the point. The obvious response by most will be to the nonsensical hyperbole, instead of the completely reasonable point.

Canucks would have to add significantly.
 

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Your last statement could easily be expressed without silly hyperboles is the point. The obvious response by most will be to the nonsensical hyperbole, instead of the completely reasonable point.

Canucks would have to add significantly.

I mean his original statement is fine... the gap between hughes and kase is roughly the same between kase and stetcher. People tryin to buy really low on kase before he plays a full season.

If were moving kase we want an impact dmen... but we really shouldnt move him at all. And stetcher isnt the move.
 
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D are worth more then wingers and Kase has an injury history that took him out of over HALF of the games last year so theres a big worry if were just getting Kase for Stecher. Id like a conditional pick depending on how many games Kase would be able to play. Something like a 3rd that becomes a 2nd if he plays less than 72 games or something like that
 

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Your last statement could easily be expressed without silly hyperboles is the point. The obvious response by most will be to the nonsensical hyperbole, instead of the completely reasonable point.

Canucks would have to add significantly.
It's not hyperbole. We are not moving our best forward unless it is for a blue chip prospect like Hughes, or an even better young forward, like EP/Boeser.
 
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This was probably just papering Gaudette. He’s not actually going to Utica. Once Fantenbergs no longer sick, saunter is sent down again. Gaudette is then papered back up. If it was a trade it’d be leaked by now as it involves a roster player. Green said no one is being sent down and this route proves him right because Gaudette never leaves Vancouver
 

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If you think he is worth kase... either stetcher is being over rated or kase severly underatted

Either way its not happening.
Nope don’t think he’s worth Kase, not on his own at least. A significant piece would have to be added. But many people are talking like he’s a scrub. He’s a sold puck moving #4/5 defenseman imo.
 

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D are worth more then wingers and Kase has an injury history that took him out of over HALF of the games last year so theres a big worry if were just getting Kase for Stecher. Id like a conditional pick depending on how many games Kase would be able to play. Something like a 3rd that becomes a 2nd if he plays less than 72 games or something like that

Youre right, what else should we add to dump Kase?
 

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Kase might be our best forward, it makes no sense for him to be moved for anything less than an overpayment

it really isn’t Vancouver’s problem that Anaheim’s forward group is so bad that Ondrej Kase looks like their best forward and it doesn’t magically increase his value to - as you are suggesting - vastly more than a legit young top 4 defenseman
 

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it really isn’t Vancouver’s problem that Anaheim’s forward group is so bad that Ondrej Kase looks like their best forward and it doesn’t magically increase his value to - as you are suggesting - vastly more than a legit young top 4 defenseman
So because he wouldn't be the best forward on other teams means we shouldn't value him as such?
 

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So because he wouldn't be the best forward on other teams means we shouldn't value him as such?

If you’re actually saying that Kase is far more valuable than a legit young top 4 defence man and suggest his value is closer to a 20 year old top 2 defence man with elite talent like Quinn Hughes.. yes it means you’re overvaluing Kase.
 
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I hope to god that Bob is done flirting with trading Kase, trading him for Faulk would have been a disaster. Really shouldn't move him
 

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Getting Stecher to play 3rd pairing for MN? It's almost like the OP hasn't A clue of the Wild's needs. They are very strong on D, and need talented forwards.
 

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I doubt Stecher has any real value league wide, definitely not anywhere close enough to get Kase. Fiala is interesting but honestly probably not a better bet than Baertschi/Goldobin (and I’m not high on either).
 

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If you’re actually saying that Kase is far more valuable than a legit young top 4 defence man and suggest his value is closer to a 20 year old top 2 defence man with elite talent like Quinn Hughes.. yes it means you’re overvaluing Kase.

Stecher has only played top 4 minutes when the Canucks were a bottom feeder. Hardly “legit”
 
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It's not hyperbole. We are not moving our best forward unless it is for a blue chip prospect like Hughes, or an even better young forward, like EP/Boeser.


Instead of making ridiculous counter trade demands, why not just say it would take more than your willing to give?

You know that EP/Boeser/Hughes are no where near what you'd get from any team, your just stirring shit up here, as a moderator you'd think you would know better.
 

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