Proposal: Troy Stecher for Kevin Fiala or Ondrej Kase

[Jabba The Hutton]

There have been Twitter rumours that the recent roster moves by the Canucks today will either result in:
a) Loui Eriksson sent down
b) Gaudette traded
c) a Defenceman traded.

I personally think its possible that both a) and c) would happen, with Stecher likely to be moved since he can be traded at a decent value for his skill. While he is a smallish dman, he is top 4 quality for most teams and a very solid all-around player.

Some of the rumours have involved Kevin Fiala (who is scratched today) or Ondrej Kase (i honestly have no idea why Ducks would trade him, but he keeps coming up in trade rumours.

Question is: Would Minnesota or Anaheim accept a deal for Troy Stetcher?
While I really like Stecher, the prospect of having Kase on the Canucks would be awesome - i personally think he is a very underrated player.

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[canucks20]

Anaheim sure wouldn't go for that. And why would the Canucks move Stecher when their d depth is weak.

I like Fiala but I don't see where he fits in for Canucks

 

[Bazeek]

There have been Twitter rumours that the recent roster moves by the Canucks today will either result in:
a) Loui Eriksson sent down
b) Gaudette traded
c) a Defenceman traded.

I personally think its possible that both a) and c) would happen, with Stecher likely to be moved since he can be traded at a decent value for his skill. While he is a smallish dman, he is top 4 quality for most teams and a very solid all-around player.

Some of the rumours have involved Kevin Fiala (who is scratched today) or Ondrej Kase (i honestly have no idea why Ducks would trade him, but he keeps coming up in trade rumours.

Question is: Would Minnesota or Anaheim accept a deal for Troy Stetcher?
While I really like Stecher, the prospect of having Kase on the Canucks would be awesome - i personally think he is a very underrated player.

Stecher would be behind Dumba and Spurgeon on the right side in Minnesota, and Suter and Brodin if he can play the left side. I can't see them having much interest.

 

[TaLoN]

Minnesota is pretty set in the top 4...

 

[MMC]

I'd puke if I had to see Kase in a Canucks jersey. If you want him, we want Hughes.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I would probably trade Fiala for Stecher if I could then trade Stecher for Kase.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

There have been Twitter rumours that the recent roster moves by the Canucks today will either result in:
a) Loui Eriksson sent down
b) Gaudette traded
c) a Defenceman traded.

I personally think its possible that both a) and c) would happen, with Stecher likely to be moved since he can be traded at a decent value for his skill. While he is a smallish dman, he is top 4 quality for most teams and a very solid all-around player.

Some of the rumours have involved Kevin Fiala (who is scratched today) or Ondrej Kase (i honestly have no idea why Ducks would trade him, but he keeps coming up in trade rumours.

Question is: Would Minnesota or Anaheim accept a deal for Troy Stetcher?
While I really like Stecher, the prospect of having Kase on the Canucks would be awesome - i personally think he is a very underrated player.

Whatsthisnow?

 

[gianni]

Whatsthisnow?

 

[bandwagonesque]

I'd puke if I had to see Kase in a Canucks jersey. If you want him, we want Hughes.

This is idiotic.

 

[MMC]

This is idiotic.

Just like trading Kase for Stecher

 

[bandwagonesque]

Just like trading Kase for Stecher

I've read your posts with some interest over the years. I know you're intelligent enough to understand that these two hypothetical trades are not similar in their disparities of value.

 

[ccman68]

I've read your posts with some interest over the years. I know you're intelligent enough to understand that these two hypothetical trades are not similar in their disparities of value.

Kase is much closer to Hughes in value than he is to Stetcher.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Kase is much closer to Hughes in value than he is to Stetcher.

I don't think you actually believe this.

 

[MMC]

I've read your posts with some interest over the years. I know you're intelligent enough to understand that these two hypothetical trades are not similar in their disparities of value.

Kase might be our best forward, it makes no sense for him to be moved for anything less than an overpayment

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I doubt either or both return those players in Fiala or Kase.

I wouldn’t mind Stecher or Gaudette though. Any interest in something like

Puljujarvi + Kharia + pick or prospect for the pair?

 

[bandwagonesque]

Kase might be our best forward, it makes no sense for him to be moved for anything less than an overpayment

I'm not disputing any of this and it has nothing to do with what you originally said, which was that Kase for Hughes would be an overpayment of a similar magnitude as Stecher for Kase, which I don't think you actually believe. A global moderator, especially one who is visible and generally respected for their contributions, should not be modelling the kind of dumb, deliberate hyperbole that starts so many arguments on these boards.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I'm not disputing any of this and it has nothing to do with what you originally said, which was that Kase for Hughes would be an overpayment of a similar magnitude as Stecher for Kase, which I don't think you actually believe. A global moderator, especially one who is visible and generally respected for their contributions, should not be modelling the kind of dumb, deliberate hyperbole that starts so many arguments on these boards.

I’d expect on Edmonton’s behave that if we targeted a player like Kase or Rakell who I also like the ask would definitely be Broberg or Bouchard. I’m not saying I’d like it but why would they settle for less.

He stated it’s an overpayment and was pointing out Stecher basically doesn’t even start the conversation. I have no issue with his take. If anything you’re stirring the argument pot more than you claim he was

 

[bandwagonesque]

He stated it’s an overpayment and was pointing out Stecher basically doesn’t even start the conversation. I have no issue with his take. If anything you’re stirring the argument pot more than you claim he was

No, he made a specific comparison that he knows is disingenuous and inaccurate. I have no problem with people thinking trade proposals are lopsided, but when points of disagreement are met with grating hyperbole, then what results isn't really a conversation.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

No, he made a specific comparison that he knows is disingenuous and inaccurate.

Did he though. I’m not the only one who seems to agree with him.

I wouldn’t trade Kase for 2 Stecher’s. I’d definitely part with either Bouchard or Broberg if it meant getting both Kase and Rakell.

You’re arguing a stated gap between value. Everyone and their dog knows Hughes holds more value

Hughes >> Kase >> Stecher

how is that a disingenuous value if that is what he was implying which is how I also see it

 

[bandwagonesque]

Did he though.

Yes.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Yes.

Anyways, semantics aside...moving along. Kase likely isn’t even available

 

[AKL]

Not even f***ing remotely close for Fiala

 

[MMC]

No, he made a specific comparison that he knows is disingenuous and inaccurate. I have no problem with people thinking trade proposals are lopsided, but when points of disagreement are met with grating hyperbole, then what results isn't really a conversation.

There's not much conversation to be had regardless of how much you think I exaggerated. Kase is not someone that would be made available for a player of Stecher's caliber.

 

[bandwagonesque]

There's not much conversation to be had regardless of how much you think I exaggerated. Kase is not someone that would be made available for a player of Stecher's caliber.

Again -- this has nothing to do with what I said and I never disputed that Stecher wouldn't return Kase.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

AHH I see.