Mr Snrub
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Who are the 2 in the league? Engelland and...?Here is a list of the 5/6 D's in Calgary over Brad's first three years, who played at least a game:
Brett Kulak
Tyler Wotherspoon
Deryk Engelland
Laddy Smid
Corey Potter
Rafa Diaz
David Schlemko
John Ramage
Pat Sieloff
Jakub Nakladal
Oliver Kylington
Matt Bartkowski
Nick Grossman
Jyrki Jokipakka
It's crazy the lack of talent on that list.
Of that list, there are two guys in the NHL, one guy near the NHL and one prospect. The rest are guys that aren't in the league even anymore.
When you don't have anything to begin with, it's hard to build outwards. Brad did a tremendous job over 3 years to build a youth foundation, insulate with some guys who could eat minutes (like Eggs) and try a bunch of different avenues to find solutions without hamstringing this team long term (a la Alzner deal).
Who are the 2 in the league? Engelland and...?
Who are the 2 in the league? Engelland and...?
Who are the 2 in the league? Engelland and...?
Who are the 2 in the league? Engelland and...?
I would love our d pairings to look like
Brodano
Hanifin - Andersson
Valimaki - Hammer
Here is a list of the 5/6 D's in Calgary over Brad's first three years, who played at least a game:
Brett Kulak
Tyler Wotherspoon
Deryk Engelland
Laddy Smid
Corey Potter
Rafa Diaz
David Schlemko
John Ramage
Pat Sieloff
Jakub Nakladal
Oliver Kylington
Matt Bartkowski
Nick Grossman
Jyrki Jokipakka
It's crazy the lack of talent on that list.
Of that list, there are two guys in the NHL, one guy near the NHL and one prospect. The rest are guys that aren't in the league even anymore.
When you don't have anything to begin with, it's hard to build outwards. Brad did a tremendous job over 3 years to build a youth foundation, insulate with some guys who could eat minutes (like Eggs) and try a bunch of different avenues to find solutions without hamstringing this team long term (a la Alzner deal).
That makes sense... I thought it was him but he had 0 games played when I looked him up.Schlemko, he's on IR for Montreal right now
I probably have some of this wrong, given the timing, but when Brad took over as GM, I believe our defense was:
Gio-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Butler-Smid
Our current D-core when healthy is just a wee bit better.
I still think Nakladal was a decent NHL defenseman and still could be if he was given a shot somewhere
I think Butler was already gone, no?
I think the bottom pairing was Diaz - Engelland with guys like Smid (IR?), TSpoon and Potter as the 7th D. We also acquired Schlemko off waivers before the TDL.
Could be, I was going purely off games played that year, and Bouwmeester being gone.
Butler was only ever traded once in his career so far apparently, so maybe he left as UFA. I can't recall. I remember him signing in St. Louis as a UFA.
Butler played his last games in the 2013-2014 season. Brad started as GM April 28, 2014 essentially as the season ended. Maybe you're looking at the prior season roster? I do believe you are correct that Butler left as a UFA.
There’s room for improvement, but I like what I see from Valimaki, Andersson and Hanifin. Don’t think we need to worry too much about defense, we’ve found our replacements for the future.
Yeah, that's my point. Butler never played for Brad, but he was technically what we had as of April 13, 2014 (our last game of the season), so two weeks before Brad that is what he had to work with.
Ah OK, I get what you mean now. Though I have a slightly different opinion about what was Burke vs Treliving, it's really splitting hairs at this point. I do agree that there's been a serious overhaul of the D Core though.
Treliving walked into a core that was...
Pros:
- Gio??
Cons:
- Lacking RHD. Most RHD was bottom pairing at best
- Lacking pipeline D options.
- Gio/Brodie the only top 4 options (Brodie hadn't shown top pairing calibre talent yet), everyone else was 5/6/7/journeymen quality D men.
- Issues with size and physicality
- Overpaid (Smid due to injuries, Wideman due to only RHD, Eggs due to...?)