Traverse City Prospects Tournament 2019

[Henkka]

Unbelieveable team to come back several times, when trailing with 2 goals.

I hope this attitude carries for future NHL team. Never surrender.

 

[newfy]

I'll tell you what, Smith has had a pretty damned good game as well.

Smith has always caught grief on this board because not enough people watch him play and watch his stat line. Mind you, he got on the board tonight a couple times but he has always looked much better than his stat line looks when you watch him. He controls the puck in the corners, is scared of no one, finishes his checks, provides a good net front presence and has a bit of a scoring touch. When you hear management talk about him hes held in much higher regard than what he is on here. The fact he was voted outside of the top 20 wings prospects on this board show how off some peoples evaluations are.

Smith and Pearson have a ton of NHL depth qualities. They aren't guys you go nuts over but they are pretty good at a lot of things. Still need to keep developing though.

This was the first I've watched much of Pearson. He seems like a guy that could for sure be a good NHL depth guy. Score the odd goal, he didnt play tough but he played hard, is a solid two way player and skates well. I could see him at some point becoming a solid 3rd line center for sure.

 

[waltdetroit]

Was that with Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson and corps?

Mostly more current Wings:From the left wing lock
The Left Wing Lock» Blog Archive » 2013 Detroit Red Wings Prospect Tournament Roster

NO.	PROSPECT NAME	POS	HT	WT	DRAFTED	2012-13 TEAM
FORWARDS
72	Andreas Athanasiou	C/LW	6.00	179	DET-12 (4-110)	London (OHL)
59	Tyler Bertuzzi	LW	6.00	178	DET-13 (2-58)	Guelph (OHL)
67	Rasmus Bodin	C/LW	6.06	207	DET-12 (7-200)	Ostersunds (Swe J-18)
42	Martin Frk	RW	6.00	193	DET-12 (2-49)	Halifax (QMJHL)
84	Barclay Goodrow *	RW	6.02	214	—	Brampton (OHL)
63	Phillippe Hudon	RW	6.00	190	DET-11 (5-145)	Victoriaville (QMJHL)
70	Calle Jarnkrok	C	5.11	174	DET-10 (2-51)	Brynas (SWE)
26	Tomas Jurco	RW	6.02	193	DET-11 (2-35)	Grand Rapids (AHL)
64	Jordan Maletta *	RW	6.03	215	—	Niagara (OHL)
39	Anthony Mantha	LW	6.04	190	DET-13 (1-20)	Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
62	Zach Nastasiuk	C/RW	6.01	190	DET-13 (2-48)	Owen Sound (OHL)
56	Teemu Pulkkinen	LW	5.11	183	DET-10 (4-111)	Jokerit (FIN)
15	Riley Sheahan	C	6.02	212	DET-10 (1-21)	Grand Rapids (AHL)
60	Marek Tvrdon	LW	6.02	217	DET-11 (4-115)	Vancouver (WHL)
DEFENSEMEN
47	Alexei Marchenko	D	6.02	183	DET-11 (7-205)	CSKA (KHL)
74	Marc McNulty	D	6.06	185	DET-13 (6-169)	Prince George (WHL)
77	Richard Nedomlel	D	6.05	231	DET-11 (7-175)	Swift Current (WHL)
58	Max Nicastro	D	6.03	225	DET-08 (3-91)	Grand Rapids (AHL)
61	Xavier Ouellet	D	6.00	187	DET-11 (2-48)	Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL)
75	Michal Plutner *	D	6.02	175	—	Tri-City (WHL)
48	Ryan Sproul	D	6.03	186	DET-11 (2-55)	Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
GOALTENDERS
31	Jared Coreau	G	6.05	207	—	Northern Michigan (NCAA)
68	Cam Lanigan *	G	6.03	202	—	Medicine Hat (WHL)
36	Jake Paterson	G	6.02	183	DET-12 (3-80)	Saginaw (OHL)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

* denotes free agent tryout
+ Mitchell Wheaton and Nick Jensen are injured and unlikely to attend or play.
** Roster is draft and Subject to change

 

[StargateSG1]

Was that with Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson and corps?

Yes

 

[Henkka]

DET - DAL 6 - 5

1-0 DET - Gregor MacLeod (Jarid Lukosevicius, Ryan Kuffner) PP
1-1 DAL - Joel Kiviranta (Tye Fehlbaher)
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2-1 DET - Givani Smith (Gregeor MacLeod, Ryan Kuffner)
2-2 DAL - Tye Dellandrea (unassisted)
2-3 DAL - Emil Djuse (Thomas Harley)
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2-4 DAL - Riley Damiani (Riley Tufte, Dawson Barteaux)
3-4 DET - Ryan Kuffner (Charles-Edouard D'Astous)
4-4 DET - Joe Veleno (D'Astous, Taro Hirose) PP
5-4 DET - Joe Veleno (Taro Hirose, Givani Smith)
6-4 DET - Givani Smith (Joe Veleno, Moritz Seider)
6-5 DAL - John Nyberg (Ben Gleason) GP

Scoring attempts (chances)
0 -10min, 2-4 (1-3)
10-20min, 9-5 (8-4)
20-30min, 2-8 (1-7) our worst moment...
30-40min, 7-5 (5-3)
40-50min, 5-5 (3-4)
50-60min, 4-6 (4-5)

Total Scoring attempts: DET - DAL, 29-33
Total Scoring chances: DET - DAL, 22-26

Stars were slightly better, but Joe Veleno - The difference maker.

Also great game from Givani Smith (2+1), Ryan Kuffner (1+2), Gregor MacLeod (1+1), Taro Hirose (0+2) and D'Astous (0+2).

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I like anything that gives Smith confidence heading into the season.

 

[Lampedampe]

Mostly current Wings:From the left wing lock
The Left Wing Lock» Blog Archive » 2013 Detroit Red Wings Prospect Tournament Roster

NO.	PROSPECT NAME	POS	HT	WT	DRAFTED	2012-13 TEAM
FORWARDS
72	Andreas Athanasiou	C/LW	6.00	179	DET-12 (4-110)	London (OHL)
59	Tyler Bertuzzi	LW	6.00	178	DET-13 (2-58)	Guelph (OHL)
67	Rasmus Bodin	C/LW	6.06	207	DET-12 (7-200)	Ostersunds (Swe J-18)
42	Martin Frk	RW	6.00	193	DET-12 (2-49)	Halifax (QMJHL)
84	Barclay Goodrow *	RW	6.02	214	—	Brampton (OHL)
63	Phillippe Hudon	RW	6.00	190	DET-11 (5-145)	Victoriaville (QMJHL)
70	Calle Jarnkrok	C	5.11	174	DET-10 (2-51)	Brynas (SWE)
26	Tomas Jurco	RW	6.02	193	DET-11 (2-35)	Grand Rapids (AHL)
64	Jordan Maletta *	RW	6.03	215	—	Niagara (OHL)
39	Anthony Mantha	LW	6.04	190	DET-13 (1-20)	Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
62	Zach Nastasiuk	C/RW	6.01	190	DET-13 (2-48)	Owen Sound (OHL)
56	Teemu Pulkkinen	LW	5.11	183	DET-10 (4-111)	Jokerit (FIN)
15	Riley Sheahan	C	6.02	212	DET-10 (1-21)	Grand Rapids (AHL)
60	Marek Tvrdon	LW	6.02	217	DET-11 (4-115)	Vancouver (WHL)
DEFENSEMEN
47	Alexei Marchenko	D	6.02	183	DET-11 (7-205)	CSKA (KHL)
74	Marc McNulty	D	6.06	185	DET-13 (6-169)	Prince George (WHL)
77	Richard Nedomlel	D	6.05	231	DET-11 (7-175)	Swift Current (WHL)
58	Max Nicastro	D	6.03	225	DET-08 (3-91)	Grand Rapids (AHL)
61	Xavier Ouellet	D	6.00	187	DET-11 (2-48)	Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL)
75	Michal Plutner *	D	6.02	175	—	Tri-City (WHL)
48	Ryan Sproul	D	6.03	186	DET-11 (2-55)	Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
GOALTENDERS
31	Jared Coreau	G	6.05	207	—	Northern Michigan (NCAA)
68	Cam Lanigan *	G	6.03	202	—	Medicine Hat (WHL)
36	Jake Paterson	G	6.02	183	DET-12 (3-80)	Saginaw (OHL)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

* denotes free agent tryout
+ Mitchell Wheaton and Nick Jensen are injured and unlikely to attend or play.
** Roster is draft and Subject to change

That's actually a stacked forward group. Looks almost like a majority are in the NHL today, and a few others got good looks in the NHL.

 

[waltdetroit]

That's actually a stacked forward group. Looks almost like a majority are in the NHL today, and a few others got good looks in the NHL.

The D wasn't bad for this tournament either. I had high hopes for Nedomiel

 

[deca guard]

Red Wings archive prospect tournament championship game on YouTube

 

[Gniwder]

Considering less than half the 2nd round picks actually make the NHL that is an interesting stance...

https://www.tsn.ca/playing-the-percentages-in-the-nhl-draft-1.206144

True that the stats are against 2nd round picks in general, I would still consider any player picked in the round a bust if they don't contribute to the team in a meaningful way.

The reason why I hated the Smith pick is because the 2016 draft was fairly deep in D, Girard, Lindgren, Clague, and Hronek were all picked after Givani. If this team had Girard, we'd be all set on D. Also, Givani was projected to go 3rd or 4th round, so it was a reach pick with less than impressive draft year stats. Picking a prospect in the 2nd round just because he's physical seems like a bad strategy.

Like I said, if he puts up points in the NHL, I will literally go eat crow. Crow season overlaps with duck season where I live, and I'm a man of my word.

 

[RedMenace]

Like I said, if he puts up points in the NHL, I will literally go eat crow. Crow season overlaps with duck season where I live, and I'm a man of my word.

How many points we talking here?

 

[Henkka]

It doesn't matter does Givani Smith score points or not. He looked like a very polished role player on that tournament. Points will come, if will be put on a productive line. I don't think he has been yet on that kind of line at Griffins. But it looks like he has all the tools be great as our new Abdelkader/Bertuzzi/Cleary/ -type of player.

- 1st PP net-front precence, did that job pretty well
- Killed penalties
- Played physically, agitated, but it didn't go out of hands
- Was used on last minute to protect the lead.

Don't also see any problem at his temper anymore, it's kind of directed to only good things. Ready to fight yeah, but does not hurt the team anyhow.

 

[TheOtherOne]

Who's this Lucky Sid Vicious guy? He seems to be in on a lot of points, but I don't remember ever hearing of him.

 

[RedMenace]

It doesn't matter does Givani Smith score points or not. He looked like a very polished role player on that tournament. Points will come, if will be put on a productive line. I don't think he has been yet on that kind of line at Griffins. But it looks like he has all the tools be great as our new Abdelkader/Bertuzzi/Cleary/ -type of player.

- 1st PP net-front precence, did that job pretty well
- Killed penalties
- Played physically, agitated, but it didn't go out of hands
- Was used on last minute to protect the lead.

Don't also see any problem at his temper anymore, it's kind of directed to only good things. Ready to fight yeah, but does not hurt the team anyhow.

Especially if he can effectively replace Capitaltater's presence and be younger and cheaper while doing it.

 

[StargateSG1]

I like anything that gives Smith confidence heading into the season.

Looked like a total bust in the 1st 2 games, but rebounded nicely in the latter 2

 

[Henkka]

Looked like a total bust in the 1st 2 games, but rebounded nicely in the latter 2

Scored 1+1 already on the 2nd game. First game was his worst on this tournament.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

They have wrong stats, again. Tried to sell that Lindström-goal to Morgan etc etc. It has always been this same mess in Traverse City. Anybody can look those better from the stream, when just multi-replaying the goals.

@Henkka how do these stats compare to your final stats? (I'm mainly care about the G,A,Pts & if you have it +/-) Thanks.

 

[Henkka]

@Henkka how do these stats compare to your final stats? (I'm mainly care about the G,A,Pts & if you have it +/-) Thanks.

Didn't collect plusminus. But I have many different assists.

Like That Dellandrea goal... Zadina had puck control and did pass the puck as a giveaway for him, and that had 2 Dallas assistants. That kind of goal is unassisted.

Veleno, 7+1 = 8
Kuffner, 3+5 = 8
Pearson, 4+3 = 7
Smith, 3+4 = 7
Seider, 0+7 = 7 (one Seider 2nd assist is debatable could Hirose touched it after him or the Veleno--> Smith tournament break-away GWG)
Hirose, 1+4 = 5
MacLeod, 1+4 =5
Zadina, 0+5 = 5
Lukosevicius, 2+2 = 4
D'Astous, 0+4 = 4
Loggins, 2+0 = 2
Lindström, 1+0 = 1
Söderblom, 0+1 = 1
Regula, 0+1 = 1
Bizier, 0+1 = 1

 

[MBH]

The pointstreak stats are fine.

 

[Henkka]

The pointstreak stats are fine.

No they are not. Better would be random generator for assists.

 

[ricky0034]

Smith has always caught grief on this board because not enough people watch him play and watch his stat line. Mind you, he got on the board tonight a couple times but he has always looked much better than his stat line looks when you watch him. He controls the puck in the corners, is scared of no one, finishes his checks, provides a good net front presence and has a bit of a scoring touch. When you hear management talk about him hes held in much higher regard than what he is on here. The fact he was voted outside of the top 20 wings prospects on this board show how off some peoples evaluations are.



This was the first I've watched much of Pearson. He seems like a guy that could for sure be a good NHL depth guy. Score the odd goal, he didnt play tough but he played hard, is a solid two way player and skates well. I could see him at some point becoming a solid 3rd line center for sure.

where do you think would have been an appropriate spot for a forward that just got outscored by Brian Lashoff on the same team to have gone?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

The pointstreak stats are fine.

If they're fine for you great, enjoy them, not everyone shares your opinion.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Who's this Lucky Sid Vicious guy? He seems to be in on a lot of points, but I don't remember ever hearing of him.

He's kind of a Luke Glendening type player, IMO. He could have a future as a pure grinder type.

 

[Go Wings]

Considering less than half the 2nd round picks actually make the NHL that is an interesting stance...

https://www.tsn.ca/playing-the-percentages-in-the-nhl-draft-1.206144

Considering he was taken directly ahead of Samuel Girard and Carter Hart I think it is a very fair stance. No one is eating crow for a 21 year old that has barely improved since he was drafted too high 3 years ago for playing well against younger greener players.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Spicy take: Lindstrom wasn't nearly as good as I hoped he'd be. To me he was pretty much indistinguishable from the undrafted guys.