Player Discussion Trading Jay Beagle

[Hit the post]

It seems Beagle is a pillar in the dressing room and exemplifies good habits to being a pro which is what the young core can model after. Beagle gets respect because he has won on every level, is extremely humble, and is purely focused on hockey. Everyone should listen to his feature on 31 thoughts podcast, it's no fluke that Canucks are battling hard in every game to the point they are competing for the playoffs while pure talent teams like Edmonton seem to be regressing their endless rebuild.

Canucks were battling hard last year as well. As for Edmonton, all their talent is upfront.

 

[txpd]

Like your GM that let him walk?

Nah, they knew they just couldn't fit him and sign John Carlson and Tom Wilson.

 

[Pip]

Nah, they knew they just couldn't fit him and sign John Carlson and Tom Wilson.

Why not?

 

[txpd]

Why not?

They are at the salary cap with Dowd making $650k in that spot. You tell me. This includes trading Orpik and resigning him at $1m

 

[VanJack]

Beagle is basically un-tradeable. The contract number and term are far too high for a fourth-line checking center. I don't care how much of a character guy he is in the room or how many faceoffs he wins, there isn't a team out there that could take on that contract.

Just one of a number of guys on the Canucks where the they'd have to eat a ton of salary to ever make a deal happen unfortrnately.

 

[Canucks1096]

Beagle is like better than Sutter in every way except maybe skating fast in a straight line.

And Sutter gets more points as well

 

[Dab]

I agree that he is probably untradeable at this point because of his contract terms but if there’s a possibility I would explore it.

 

[I in the Eye]

Big no to trading Jay Beagle. With Jay Beagle, carpet, a radio and clothes hangers, our locker room is perfect for the kids... and it costs only $3,002,545 per year for this perfect locker room that helps create an environment conducive to success.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

I mean... maybe? What do the Caps want to trade these days?

 

[Pip]

They are at the salary cap with Dowd making $650k in that spot. You tell me. This includes trading Orpik and resigning him at $1m

I’m sure if he was worth the money the Caps would have moved other players and made room for him.

 

[Regal]

It seems Beagle is a pillar in the dressing room and exemplifies good habits to being a pro which is what the young core can model after. Beagle gets respect because he has won on every level, is extremely humble, and is purely focused on hockey. Everyone should listen to his feature on 31 thoughts podcast, it's no fluke that Canucks are battling hard in every game to the point they are competing for the playoffs while pure talent teams like Edmonton seem to be regressing their endless rebuild.

Edmonton's issue is lack of talent not lavk of character. Just like the Canucks they only have 3 top 6 forwards, 2-3 useful defensemen and no depth.

 

[PuckFather]

That's actually not true at all

When was the last time you watched a Canucks game?

 

[elitepete]

Anaheim has had interest in Sutter.

Pittsburgh is looking for a defensive 3c and obviously there is familiarity there. Plus I think Rutherford likes him a lot.

I think we should just trade Sutter because he might have value if we take a short term cap dump.

What other dinosaur GMs are there? Tallon? Wilson? Holland? Chiarelli?

 

[mathonwy]

And Sutter gets more points as well

And Beagle doesn't seem like a complete and total space case.



Beagle is a man on a mission and a smart one at that.

I can see why the Caps fan miss him because yeah... this guy is the real deal.

Sutter does not play like a player that is fully invested in the long term success of this team and that's probably a part of the reason why we all dislike him in way one or another. Same goes with Gud and his "tough guy" act. And Eriksson... I dunno what's going on with that guy.

Jay, on the other hand, plays with an edge every single shift and that's the reason why I'm a fan of his because that's what Burr and Kes did back in the day.

And does this affect the locker room? Possibly? It might make everyone more competitive because you don't want to be shown up by the new guy?

Jimbo finally got it right this time? Is Beagle actually a culture carrier?

So I'm tank all the way because this team can not afford any more screw ups at this point of time but I'm against any moves that would damage the team's ability to compete (like trading Edler) and trading Jay would, IMO, severely damage this team's ability to motivate itself which is an extremely important intangible to have on a team of young players.

Get rid of Sutter. Make him someone else's problem. Bring Gaudette up permanently and let er ride.

 

[Horse McHindu]

No to trading Jay Beagle, him and Roussel are valuable pieces for the bottom six. I would trade Sutter and Granlund though.

Completely agree with this.

We’re already seeing the value of Roussel in a Canucks uniform. My hats off to @Melvin by the way. Melvin flat out predicted that Roussel would be an extremely valuable addition to your Vancouver Canucks and so I’ll have to give my props here.

Beagle’s very recent cup win in Washington (where he was in a leadership role) also serves as an invaluable asset to the Canucks’ lockerroom.

I do like Sutter, but Gaudette is ready for the bigs and sonething’s got to give. Either move Sutter to the wing and move someone else, or trade Sutter.

Given the Canucks’ cap space (or lack thereof when you consider the inevitable reups of Boeser and Edler), Granlund needs to go. Trade for pick. Ditto for Schaller if possible.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Completely agree with this.

We’re already seeing the value of Roussel in a Canucks uniform. My hats off to @Melvin by the way. Melvin flat out predicted that Roussel would be an extremely valuable addition to your Vancouver Canucks and so I’ll have to give my props here.

Beagle’s very recent cup win in Washington (where he was in a leadership role) also serves as an invaluable asset to the Canucks’ lockerroom.

I do like Sutter, but Gaudette is ready for the bigs and sonething’s got to give. Either move Sutter to the wing and move someone else, or trade Sutter.

Given the Canucks’ cap space (or lack thereof when you consider the inevitable reups of Boeser and Edler), Granlund needs to go. Trade for pick. Ditto for Schaller if possible.

You are not going to get a pick for Granlund. Would you give up a pick to get him? Maybe Minn would like to reunite the brothers, but that's it.

Beagle has been a useful Canucks this year, but his contract is ridiculous. MNTC and $3M a year for 4 years?

 

[txpd]

I’m sure if he was worth the money the Caps would have moved other players and made room for him.

You think? Please, have a look at the roster and find a guy they could move that made sense to sign that player to the contract Vancouver gave him. I am persuadeable. How many goals does Chaisson have now? The Caps kept the entire team save for those two.

 

[Pip]

You think? Please, have a look at the roster and find a guy they could move that made sense to sign that player to the contract Vancouver gave him. I am persuadeable. How many goals does Chaisson have now? The Caps kept the entire team save for those two.

Burakovsky?

 

[txpd]

Burakovsky?

You have hit on the one tough call. He had a couple of big playoff games and has shown large stretches of being a 30 goal 60 pt player. Still he is signed for just this year and as ive mentioned he would be the player to trade for Beagle.

 

[kanuck87]

Contract aside, I've grown to like Beagle. He's just a really solid player who knows what his boundaries are. Sutter, on the other hand....

 

[y2kcanucks]

When was the last time you watched a Canucks game?

A couple games ago. I also understand how stats work.

 

[LordBacon]

Would rather trade sutter, I think he’s gonna bring more assets back than beagle. Plus I would like to see gaudette centering the 3rdline, youth movement baby.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Anaheim has had interest in Sutter.

Pittsburgh is looking for a defensive 3c and obviously there is familiarity there. Plus I think Rutherford likes him a lot.

I think we should just trade Sutter because he might have value if we take a short term cap dump.

What other dinosaur GMs are there? Tallon? Wilson? Holland? Chiarelli?

They have to move one of Sutter and Beagle this summer regardless, Gaudette is definitely an decent nhl player by that time

 

[Cupless44]

Would rather trade sutter, I think he’s gonna bring more assets back than beagle. Plus I would like to see gaudette centering the 3rdline, youth movement baby.

Fully agree. Move Sutter, sooner than later, this deadline.

Canucks are a bubble team that is going to just miss the playoffs. They can switch out Sutter for Gaudette and do that without missing a beat while planning for future.

 

[elitepete]

Fully agree. Move Sutter, sooner than later, this deadline.

Canucks are a bubble team that is going to just miss the playoffs. They can switch out Sutter for Gaudette and do that without missing a beat while planning for future.

I think Sutter has a full NTC until July though.