82Ninety42011
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Considering the Canucks have a couple more points then them Oilers and Sir McDavid the character guys on Canucks must be worth something
Player Discussion Trading Jay Beagle
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Considering the Canucks have a couple more points then them Oilers and Sir McDavid the character guys on Canucks must be worth something
I think that can largely be attributed to goaltending. And shockingly, having more forward depth somehow. The Oilers have 34 goals outside of their top 4 producers from all the forwards who have played a game. The Canucks have 48.
82Ninety42011
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Our bottom 6 are actually decent but Canucks desperately need 2 top 6 wingers it's crazy how bad our top 6 is besides the big 3.
mathonwy
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We should ask him to waive it.
And if he doesn't, we should make his life miserable until he does.
For the good of the team of course.
VancouverJagger
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This would never happen. Sounds nice and all but zero chance Benning would do that to a player that he just signed.
He's just not that ruthless - right or wrong he's always shown to be cognizant of our organizations players feelings - I just can't see him ever doing this trade year one. Year two.........mayyyybe but still doubtful. Year three I could see it but not until then.
He's just not that ruthless - right or wrong he's always shown to be cognizant of our organizations players feelings - I just can't see him ever doing this trade year one. Year two.........mayyyybe but still doubtful. Year three I could see it but not until then.
txpd
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Why so serious?
I suppose both are kind of redundant.. maybe trade one of them in a year or 2. But they both do play a part. So perhaps when gaudette is ready to take a step to be a regular. Otherwise it’s not overly necessary at this point in time. But I think it’s time to move granlund. Could see him being dealt at deadline.
ErrantShepherd
Nostalgic despite the Bad
Please. Granlund needs to go, just so we can talk about somebody else at least.
Fire Benning
diaper filled piss baby
If you can get anything for an aging player with term left you’d be stupid not to.
Caps have been able to adequately replace Beagle with cheaper guys like Dowd and Stephenson, if they wanted to keep Beagle they likely would’ve paid him last summer
Caps have been able to adequately replace Beagle with cheaper guys like Dowd and Stephenson, if they wanted to keep Beagle they likely would’ve paid him last summer
Billy Kvcmu
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According to the Caps fan that started this thread, Dowd sucks and he misses Beagle.
Fire Benning
diaper filled piss baby
Wonder why they didn’t pay him last offseason.
Interesting how competently run teams don’t give big money/term to 4th liners. Funny how that works.
Jay Beagle plays a hard fast and heavy game; has been fantastic on the PK. Beagle and Roussel bring an element that was missing from this team. I would trade Sutter ASAP, the Canucks played with more pace and were better without him in the line up. Sutter is a chippy defensively reliable forward but offence dies on his stick.
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Yawn. They didn’t pay him because they couldn’t afford to. We have the cap space and no dilusions of being a good team. Because they chose to not pay him doesn’t mean Dowd = Beagle. That’s not how it works
It is funny how good teams cant afford players who dont make much of a difference.
They allocate their cap to the top of their lineup. It’s not rocket science Peter. We are not a good team
Seems like you think it is smart to waste money just because you have it available. Glorious.
Caps seem to be regretting letting Beagle go, apparently Dowd is horrible. Deeper in the playoffs the first 2 lines typically become less effective 5 on 5 due to defensive/checking strategies and shutdown assignments. Washington’s 3rd & 4th lines stepped up big time in the playoffs and were critical in their cup win.
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Washington's top 6 was actually producing really well at ES:
Kuznetsov 20 ESP in 24GP
Ovi 16 ESP in 24GP
Wilson 15 ESP in 21GP
Backstrom 10 ESP in 20GP
Eller 14 ESP in 24GP
Oshie 10 ESP in 24GP
Of course, their biggest success came from an absolutely dominant #1PP unit (similar to Vancouver's run before everything fell to pieces).
Not trying to downplay the clutch handful of goals their bottom 6 got them (Burakovsky's only 2 goals won them the cup, DSP had a couple really important goals), but to say that the first lines were non factors at ES is a bit off.
Meant less effective instead of non factors. Eller was on the third line and filled in admirably when Backstrom went down. Smith-Pelly potted some huge goals. Vrana played great in a middle 6 role. Connolly played well. Burakovsky with some clutch goals. Stephenson & Beagle great on the PK, Beagle led the playoffs with 184 face-off wins (60.13 face-off percentage). The games & series were so tight & so close, if not for the role players stepping up the Caps wouldn’t have hoisted the cup.
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mathonwy
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For the record. I’m ok to overpay players like Beagle as based on what I’ve seen so far, he brings the thunder every time he’s on the ice and that type of work ethic IS contagious.
However, it remains to be seen if he’s capable of maintaining this type of work ethic for the duration of his contract because as we’ve seen in players like Dorsett, crappy management can kill a players motivation dead. Injuries as well (Prust).
Based on what I’ve read from Caps fans, I’m cautiously optimistic about Beagle but until Jimbo is replaced, this situation could turn to crap at the drop of a dime.
However, it remains to be seen if he’s capable of maintaining this type of work ethic for the duration of his contract because as we’ve seen in players like Dorsett, crappy management can kill a players motivation dead. Injuries as well (Prust).
Based on what I’ve read from Caps fans, I’m cautiously optimistic about Beagle but until Jimbo is replaced, this situation could turn to crap at the drop of a dime.
Yup, not much you can do when you have to role out Oreskovich, Tambelleni, Alberts etc.
Malholtra hurt, Raymond out, most of the other forwards playing banged up, especially Kesler & Burrows. Defence was limping, Hamuis out with injury, Salo playing hurt. IMO the turning point was the Rome hit; we lose another defender (suspended), wake up the Bruins, they replace Horton by calling up Sequin. Our third line deserves some praise Torres-Lapierre-Hansen were solid.
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