Speculation: Trade Speculation / Untouchable players, part II

[Jag68Sid87]

I blame fantasy sports for peoples lack of reality when talking about trades.

But fantasy sports IS a reality these days, more and more. It's unavoidable. It's everywhere.

I blame people's inability to properly evaluate talent. But that's not just with fans, because people who actually get paid to do that fail a lot at it, as well.

 

[Ogrezilla]

He was sat because we were tied 2-2 to the Islanders and we were benching Vitale and Kennedy (Jokinen or Bennett too I believe). We don't have that kind of depth this year. Glass will be in the lineup every night.

I don't think its likely at all. But there is a non-zero possibility of Glass being sat, unlike Adams.

 

[Ogrezilla]

At any cost. Trade letang and that horrible contract. . Last year we could have had a kings ransom. Now we'd get a bag of pucks back

you're wrong. Not sure what else to say here.

 

[vyktor]

You're expectations were too high.

Knowing that Sutter isn't going to get much PP time on a healthy Pens roster 50 points is pretty lofty expectations. The last full season neither Parise or Bergeron could crack 50 ESP playing 81/82 games.

 

[GFF]

Is Hemsky a realistic/useful target?

Would Oilers accept. Depres+?(prospect) for Hemsky? Could we fit him in the cap? Would he work on Sid's wing?

Is he too soft?

Just interested in people's thoughts.

 

[IcedCapp]

Despres+ for ****ing Hemsky?

Hemsky's a UFA.

Despres is a good player on his ELC.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Is Hemsky a realistic/useful target?

Would Oilers accept. Depres+?(prospect) for Hemsky? Could we fit him in the cap? Would he work on Sid's wing?

Is he too soft?

Just interested in people's thoughts.

Despres + for Hemsky would be a travesty. I'd be fine bringing in Hemsky, but for something like Samuelsson and a late pick, not Despres.

 

[GFF]

Ok so forget Despres for Hemsky straight up, I'm sadly out of touch with things not penguins, would there be a deal to be done that Oilers would take (and us).

They need reliable D (so I can tell) Despres would probably be someone they would take on so is there a deal to be done around Despres for Hemsky +? ..?

Would Hemsky be a fit for us in any way?

 

[IcedCapp]

Ok so forget Despres for Hemsky straight up, I'm sadly out of touch with things not penguins, would there be a deal to be done that Oilers would take (and us).

They need reliable D (so I can tell) Despres would probably be someone they would take on so is there a deal to be done around Despres for Hemsky +? ..?

Would Hemsky be a fit for us in any way?

I wouldn't trade Despres for anything realistic on the Oilers (I'd trade him for Eberle, but that's not happening).

I have a feeling the Penguins will trade Despres for Gagner, and at that point in time I'll be questioning my fandom.

 

[Ogrezilla]

We don't have any NHL ready players that I'd consider trading for Hemsky. I'd take him for depth assets though.

 

[Waffle Fries]

Ok so forget Despres for Hemsky straight up, I'm sadly out of touch with things not penguins, would there be a deal to be done that Oilers would take (and us).

They need reliable D (so I can tell) Despres would probably be someone they would take on so is there a deal to be done around Despres for Hemsky +? ..?

Would Hemsky be a fit for us in any way?

No. I want nothing to do with Hemsky.

 

[DougieSmash]

Tlusty for Despres and probably something minor.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I don't think its likely at all. But there is a non-zero possibility of Glass being sat, unlike Adams.

Agreed. It's not zero, but it's highly unlikely Glass sits in the playoffs barring injury to himself. Adams is locked in as much as Crosby and Malkin are. Sad but definitely true.


As for Hemsky, he doesn't really do anything better than Beau Bennett, Jayson Megna or Brian Gibbons at this stage of his career. Let me go to the KHL next year to ride it out. He's done as an NHLer, imo.

 

[IcedCapp]

Tlusty for Despres and probably something minor.

I don't know if I want Tlusty, but I'd LOVE to send Despres somewhere within the division so that it can come back to bite us over and over and over and over.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Tlusty for Despres and probably something minor.

Yuck.

 

[pensfan71]

Gagner's looked pretty decent on the RW..but not good enough for ****ing Despres...

 

[gordie]

Keith Jones was on Pittsburgh's 93.7 the fan and said something interesting. He considered the Pens the 6th best team in the NHL behind Anaheim, Chicago ,St Louis, LA and San Jose for no other reason than Lack of Size throughout the Forwards and this hurts the Pens when they have to play a Physical Grinding Playoff Series. I agree with the lack of size part, so when I think of Trades Shero might make the Steve Ott's, Kane's, Ladd's and Wheeler's of the league is probably what he's looking at.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Keith Jones was on Pittsburgh's 93.7 the fan and said something interesting. He considered the Pens the 6th best team in the NHL behind Anaheim, Chicago ,St Louis, LA and San Jose for no other reason than Lack of Size throughout the Forwards and this hurts the Pens when they have to play a Physical Grinding Playoff Series. I agree with the lack of size part, so when I think of Trades Shero might make the Steve Ott's, Kane's, Ladd's and Wheeler's of the league is probably what he's looking at.

I agree with everything about that.

 

[alcanalz]

Gagner's looked pretty decent on the RW..but not good enough for ****ing Despres...

I wouldn't touch Gagner with a 10-foot pole.

 

[Waffle Fries]

Gagner's looked pretty decent on the RW..but not good enough for ****ing Despres...

Gagner's contract is bad. The only place he'd fit is on Sid's wing, and if we're paying 4.8M, I want someone a good deal better than him. I have no interest in him or Hemsky. I really think we should just forget about the Oilers. They're a mess. Practically everyone on that roster isn't worth the contract they gave them. They don't want to trade their good players, and they expect the moon for their average-at-best ones.

 

[pensfan71]

Gagner's contract is bad. The only place he'd fit is on Sid's wing, and if we're paying 4.8M, I want someone a good deal better than him. I have no interest in him or Hemsky. I really think we should just forget about the Oilers. They're a mess. Practically everyone on that roster isn't worth the contract they gave them. They don't want to trade their good players, and they expect the moon for their average-at-best ones.

I'm not saying we should get him guys

His contract is horrendous and the only way I'd want him is if they retained half of it.

Colorado is where my money is for a deal going down.

Despres, Nisky, McGinn and ROR, least 2 of those names are gonna be involved...and probs Talbot

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Keith Jones was on Pittsburgh's 93.7 the fan and said something interesting. He considered the Pens the 6th best team in the NHL behind Anaheim, Chicago ,St Louis, LA and San Jose for no other reason than Lack of Size throughout the Forwards and this hurts the Pens when they have to play a Physical Grinding Playoff Series. I agree with the lack of size part, so when I think of Trades Shero might make the Steve Ott's, Kane's, Ladd's and Wheeler's of the league is probably what he's looking at.

I don't think we can get any of the Jets forwards but maybe Ott and Moulson could be an idea out of Buffalo

 

[pensfan71]

I don't think we can get any of the Jets forwards but maybe Ott and Moulson could be an idea out of Buffalo

Ott AND Moulson might be stretching it...unless you're saying one or the other, than I agree

 

[Shockmaster]

I don't think we can get any of the Jets forwards but maybe Ott and Moulson could be an idea out of Buffalo

I like Ott, but he's a center. Can he play wing? We saw Sutter at RW last night and he didn't look too comfortable. It's hard for a lot of players to make that position change.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I'd rather Ott. I really don't like Moulson.

I like Ott, but he's a center. Can he play wing? We saw Sutter at RW last night and he didn't look too comfortable. It's hard for a lot of players to make that position change.

I'm pretty sure he can play wing.