Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXIX

[Loach]

Not really. He's played wingers on their off wing several times this year.

Ok. Because I heard that some coaches like to set the lines up in pairs and then rotate the 3rd guys around if things aren't working or they need a change.

 

[Loach]

Tkachuk-Norris- ?
? - Stutzle - Batherson
? - Pinto - White
Kelly - Kastelic - ?

That would give us Joseph, Formenton, Brown and Watson to move up, down and around. These guys might be more able to shift around during a game. It would change if we got a top 6 or/and a Neil type player. Does this work, in theory?

 

[The Expert]

I would certainly trade Brannstrom for Fiala. But that wasn't what I was talking about.

Who is "anyone" (kind of vague)? If you are talking about fans, sure I agree.

I was talking about what the Wild want in a trade from Ottawa. That's a different topic.

And, I didn't say the Wild would not want Brannstrom either. I was just saying they'd want more, at least imho.

I was never referring to you at all, I quoted someone else suggesting they wouldn't trade Brannstrom for Fiala and then you entered the conversation. I think it's common sense the Wild want a hell of a lot more than Brannstrom for Fiala, but some people here rate Brannstrom a lot higher than me.

 

[Big Muddy]

I was never referring to you at all, I quoted someone else suggesting they wouldn't trade Brannstrom for Fiala and then you entered the conversation.

OK, got it. I agree with you in that case. I would trade Brannstrom for Fiala.

I'm not sure the Wild would though, which was the point I was making.

 

[The Expert]

OK, got it. I agree with you in that case. I would trade Brannstrom for Fiala.

I'm not sure the Wild would though, which was the point I was making.

I don't think the Wild even pick up the phone if we're offering Branny as the centrepiece. I found someone else suggesting they wouldn't trade Branny for anything less than Chychrun laughable. We gotta be realistic.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Sens management lets Duclair walk and he signs elsewhere for 3M a year, and now are apparently interested in trading a bunch of assets for Fiala to pay him somewhere between 6-8M.

Bunch of geniuses.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Sens management lets Duclair walk and he signs elsewhere for 3M a year, and now are apparently interested in trading a bunch of assets for Fiala to pay him somewhere between 6-8M.

Bunch of geniuses.

 

[Big Muddy]

I don't think the Wild even pick up the phone if we're offering Branny as the centrepiece. I found someone else suggesting they wouldn't trade Branny for anything less than Chychrun laughable. We gotta be realistic.

I agree. If Brannstrom is involved in a trade with the Wild for Fiala, then something else is being offered from Ottawa that is fairly significant I would think.

 

[Masked]

Sens management lets Duclair walk and he signs elsewhere for 3M a year, and now are apparently interested in trading a bunch of assets for Fiala to pay him somewhere between 6-8M.

Bunch of geniuses.

Piece of advice. When you're trying to mock others for their intelligence try not to get things wrong while you're doing it.

Assen na yo

 

[Hale The Villain]

Piece of advice. When you're trying to mock others for their intelligence try not to get things wrong while you're doing it.

Assen na yo

And what did I get wrong?

 

[2CHAINZ]

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[Ouroboros]

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Dorionception.

He has to go deeper.

 

[JungleBeat]

And what did I get wrong?

Dorion being interested in a good player.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Dorion watching Dorion watch Dorion while Pierre2 sleeps.

They using TSN as scouting alternative to cut costs.

 

[robsenz]

Dorion watching Dorion watch Dorion while Pierre2 sleeps.

Even Dorion shook his head when he saw himself on TV.

 

[JackieDaytona]

This notion that Brannstrom has no value needs further thought IMO. While he’s no longer one of the brightest young d prospects around the league, he’s still really young, still developing, and holding down an nhl spot showing he belongs.

What is a young pp qb dman (borderline top 4) worth? We talk as if teams wouldn’t perceive any value, as if he’s a busted prospect. I don’t think he is at all, even if he represents a weak return for a player like Stone.

 

[Ouroboros]

This notion that Brannstrom has no value needs further thought IMO. While he’s no longer one of the brightest young d prospects around the league, he’s still really young, still developing, and holding down an nhl spot showing he belongs.

What is a young pp qb dman (borderline top 4) worth? We talk as if teams wouldn’t perceive any value, as if he’s a busted prospect. I don’t think he is at all, even if he represents a weak return for a player like Stone.

Ian Mendes did a pre-trade deadline article in the Athletic where a panel of anonymous NHL scouts and execs evaluated some fan trade proposals that were sent in.

The consensus opinion was that Brannstrom has essentially no value around the league.

 

[TheNewEra]

Tkachuk-Norris- ?
? - Stutzle - Batherson
? - Pinto - White
Kelly - Kastelic - ?

That would give us Joseph, Formenton, Brown and Watson to move up, down and around. These guys might be more able to shift around during a game. It would change if we got a top 6 or/and a Neil type player. Does this work, in theory?

This does work in theory, my issue is with or without white we will have a lot of money tied into our forwards in just Brady/Norris/Stutzle/Batherson/Pinto around 32-35 million. Another top 6 forward will cost anywhere from 5-8 million. If we are going to be a cap team then we could probably make it work but if our internal cap is around 70 million (we spent about 66 million in real dollars as per cap friendly) then that is more then half our budget on 6 forwards).

Plus we really do need a top 4 dman even if its a temporary one because our defense is a bigger negative

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-XXX
Holden/Bran(if bran is still around)-Hamonic

So if we had to pick one spot to spend our remaining budget it would be getting rid of zaistev and adding a dman here

 

[Big Muddy]

This notion that Brannstrom has no value needs further thought IMO. While he’s no longer one of the brightest young d prospects around the league, he’s still really young, still developing, and holding down an nhl spot showing he belongs.

What is a young pp qb dman (borderline top 4) worth? We talk as if teams wouldn’t perceive any value, as if he’s a busted prospect. I don’t think he is at all, even if he represents a weak return for a player like Stone.

I think some of the recent discussion is whether he would be the main piece in a trade for Fiala, not that Brannstrom has "no value", or that he is a "busted prospect". There's more nuance in what is being discussed and when you remove the relevant nuance then you end up talking about 2 different subjects.

Perhaps posing a question would be better: Do you think the Wild would do a straight one-for-one trade Brannstrom for Fiala?

 

[Answer]

This does work in theory, my issue is with or without white we will have a lot of money tied into our forwards in just Brady/Norris/Stutzle/Batherson/Pinto around 32-35 million. Another top 6 forward will cost anywhere from 5-8 million. If we are going to be a cap team then we could probably make it work but if our internal cap is around 70 million (we spent about 66 million in real dollars as per cap friendly) then that is more then half our budget on 6 forwards).

Plus we really do need a top 4 dman even if its a temporary one because our defense is a bigger negative

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-XXX
Holden/Bran(if bran is still around)-Hamonic

So if we had to pick one spot to spend our remaining budget it would be getting rid of zaistev and adding a dman here

Once I see Norris get PAID, then we can officially say that we are paying a few 50 point players as they are 80+ point players

Good that we have Batherson's and Brown's contracts to balance it out

 

[Samsquanch]

Once I see Norris get PAID, then we can officially say that we are paying a few 50 point players as they are 80+ point players

Good that we have Batherson's and Brown's contracts to balance it out

It must suck being so damn miserable. I seriously cannot fathom what level of masochist one must be to still be cheering for the Ottawa Senators as long as you have.

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you believe a young (22yrs on his ELC) ppg #1C whos already scored 80+ pts gets paid on his next contract versus what Norris is gonna get "overpaid" for? Care to elaborate for us?

 

[bicboi64]

The consensus opinion was that Brannstrom has essentially no value around the league.

If that's a case, our only option to move him (assuming management doesn't want him here) would be to try and take advantage of a cap strapped team that has injuries. Teams like Minnesota, Oilers, or the Caps that need all the cheap ELC talent they can get

 

[Billy Bridges]

Sens will use Brannstrom+, JBD+, or Lassi+ for a top-6 forward. The value and pieces needed for that + depends on the perceived value of each Dman. The obvious concern and most likely scenario is selling low on one of these D, and buying high on a forward the Sens overvalue.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Does Brannstrom have as much value as Bean & Bear did last year? Hard to say but I would guess that's the absolute max value he carries - a mid-2nd or a solid 3rd liner that doesnt fit their teams salary structure.

 

[TheDebater]