Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXIX

[Xspyrit]

I have been very high on Sens young players and continue to be

However, can't say that I am very confident in the rebuild working out. Eugene Melnyk, Pierre Dorion, Pierre McGuire, DJ Smith, Jack Capuano... I don't know but it doesn't inspire me confidence

So are we going to trade Nick Paul, Connor Brown and Artem Zub?

Batherson will have 5 years left after this season. Chabot and Tkachuk 6 years. Chabot turned 25 years old.

If we trade Paul, Brown and Zub, who replaces them adequately and how long will it take? When will we make the playoffs? When will we seriously compete?

Imagine going into a scorched earth rebuild by trading several STARS in their prime and not do much better than what the 2011-17 Sens (who only did a rebuild on the fly) did? Made the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons and won 3 rounds (1 ECF).

Not buying that for 1 second.

Not buying what? That Duclair could score 20+ on the Sens?

I mean... he scored 23 goals in 66 games in his last (and only) season here.

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[Burrowsaurus]

Yes he was great for half a season and awful for the other half.

20+ goals on the Ottawa senators. That’s a good season I’m not sure why duclair gets the “but when he wasn’t scoring, he actually didn’t score goals” treatment.

 

[Que]

Why do we as a fan base keep bringing up Duclair? Get over it. Some things can’t be rationalized.

Oh, and speaking of that… Does anyone else know where Nick Schmaltz went to college? You get one guess.

Can’t wait for the Boedkker 2.0 trade.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I have been very high on Sens young players and continue to be

However, can't say that I am very confident in the rebuild working out. Eugene Melnyk, Pierre Dorion, Pierre McGuire, DJ Smith, Jack Capuano... I don't know but it doesn't inspire me confidence

So are we going to trade Nick Paul, Connor Brown and Artem Zub?

Batherson will have 5 years left after this season. Chabot and Tkachuk 6 years. Chabot turned 25 years old.

If we trade Paul, Brown and Zub, who replaces them adequately and how long will it take? When will we make the playoffs? When will we seriously compete?

Imagine going into a scorched earth rebuild by trading several STARS in their prime and not do much better than what the 2011-2016 Sens (who only did a rebuild on the fly) did?



Not buying what? That Duclair could score 20+ on the Sens?

I mean... he scored 23 goals in 66 games in his last (and only) season here.

Yeah but if you remove the games where he scored he actually had 0 goals on the season

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Not buying that for 1 second.

He actually did it. This isn’t a hypothetical it actually happened

 

[GCK]

He actually did it. This isn’t a hypothetical it actually happened

I don’t buy it for 1 second he could get 20 on this team, this year which was what was postulated. I can’t stand him as a player so I may be somewhat biased

 

[God Says No]

I don’t buy it for 1 second he could get 20 on this team, this year which was what was postulated. I can’t stand him as a player so I may be somewhat biased

Yeah, you're biased. Put Duclair in the top six and PP and he scores around 20. When he scored 23 in the 19/20 season as a team we were scoring 2.7 per game. This year it's 2.6. Very comparable.

 

[HSF]

I don’t buy it for 1 second he could get 20 on this team, this year which was what was postulated. I can’t stand him as a player so I may be somewhat biased

So you are saying our roster is worse now?

 

[TheNewEra]

Ottawa's additions in the last two seasons are:
Dadanov Zub Watson Anisimov Stepan Gudbranson Mete Coburn Galchenyuk Murray Forsberg Ennis Sanford Gaudette Holden J. Brown Gambrell Del Zotto

So we really shouldnt be expecting any big change this offseason. It is also why buying out White makes little sense because that crop of forwards listed above is worse haha.

Bring in Sanderson. We have an advantage of a lot of assets but a poor pro scouting department, bunch together two-three assets and get a middle six forward to add to the team and hope for better internal improvement

 

[GCK]

So you are saying our roster is worse now?

Definitely. With the injuries it’s gone from below average and thin to terrible.

 

[Big Muddy]

Is Paul seriously a goner? God this org sucks.

According to Big Bruce, Sanford, Forsberg, Josh Brown, and possibly Nick Paul are gone, unless they work something out with Paul. It sounded like Bruce was setting up the old "well we tried to sign him" routine again. Then there's apparently teams checking in on MDZ as well.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

According to Big Bruce, Sanford, Forsberg, Josh Brown, and possibly Nick Paul are gone, unless they work something out with Paul. It sounded like Bruce was setting up the old "well we tried to sign him" routine again. Then there's apparently teams checking in on MDZ as well.

I'm okay with all those players gone, with Paul being the lowest on the list (obviously).
If he isn't willing to sign 2-3M/year; I don't really see the benefit of keeping him.

 

[aragorn]

Why do we as a fan base keep bringing up Duclair? Get over it. Some things can’t be rationalized.

Oh, and speaking of that… Does anyone else know where Nick Schmaltz went to college? You get one guess.

Can’t wait for the Boedkker 2.0 trade.

UND

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Adding a top 6 forward in the offseason is a must IMO. (getting Buchnevich last year would have been nice but alas).

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

According to Big Bruce, Sanford, Forsberg, Josh Brown, and possibly Nick Paul are gone, unless they work something out with Paul. It sounded like Bruce was setting up the old "well we tried to sign him" routine again. Then there's apparently teams checking in on MDZ as well.

It's not okay that Chris Tierney isn't on this list.

 

[Dionysus]

It's not okay that Chris Tierney isn't on this list.

Probably no interest.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Probably no interest.

You're probably right.

 

[Ouroboros]

According to Big Bruce, Sanford, Forsberg, Josh Brown, and possibly Nick Paul are gone, unless they work something out with Paul. It sounded like Bruce was setting up the old "well we tried to sign him" routine again. Then there's apparently teams checking in on MDZ as well.

That's not exactly what was said.

On Paul - Still believes that a 3 or 4 year deal will be worked out before the deadline, but if it can't he'll obviously be dealt.

On Forsberg - Thinks they may keep him beyond the deadline and make a decision at the end of the season. There is some trade interest.

On Sanford - Expects him to move

On Brown - There 'may' be interest because he's 'rugged'. I'm skeptical.

It's not okay that Chris Tierney isn't on this list.

Nobody is going to want him. People should probably get used to the idea of Tierney playing out the string here.

 

[aragorn]

I'm for trading five or more of these guys if possible ...

Sanford - I'm sure some team might want his SC experience for depth
Forsberg - I assume some teams might want better backup goaltending
Tierny - maybe a depth trade, more likely leaves after contract is done
J. Brown - could play a depth role on a playoff team
Ennis - doubtful anyone wants him
Sabourin - maybe someone wants this guy against a tough playoff team
Agozzino - likely just won't re-sign
Shaw - likely just won't re-sign
Leslie - likely just won't re-sign

Others who could be traded ...

Gambrell - might be a good depth player, should not re-sign
Gaudette - might be a good depth player, should not re-sign
Bishop - might be a good depth player, should not re-sign
Mete - might be a good depth player, should not re-sign
Brannstrom - more likely a draft day trade or packaged or not traded

 

[Crosside]

It's not okay that Chris Tierney isn't on this list.

To be fair, since Tierney was hurt. We don’t have win a game lol

 

[BondraTime]

Paul is the only guy I could see teams wanting for a run.

None of our trade pieces are valuable outside of him.

 

[Sensinitis]

I can see a team like Edmonton or Calgary throwing us a bone for Tierney

 

[TheNewEra]

Paul is the best only guy I could see teams wanting for a run.

None of our trade pieces are valuable outside of him.

Sanford is a big guy and a lot of gms are dinosaurs so i can see a decent amount of interest in him even though it is not warranted

 

[GCK]

Paul is the best only guy I could see teams wanting for a run.

None of our trade pieces are valuable outside of him.

I can see Stanford and Forsberg moving for a 3rd or 4th and J Brown getting a late round pick.

 

[Ouroboros]

Sanford would be an upgrade on the 4th line of many contending teams. That's an easy 4th rounder for Dorion to pick up, and possibly the only deal he makes at the deadline.