Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part II

[BondraTime]

An effective shutdown defenceman is one who can shutdown other teams players, and then effectively transition to get off the ice.

So a shutdown player comes off the ice if the puck moves toward or goes in the offensive zone. Can you imagine how foolish this would look. Shift could be 8 seconds and then get off. LMAO!! Some people actually have a shallow understanding of the game. A shutdown player also KEEPS the opposition in their own zone. We often use a D PINCH to do this, hopefully with forward support(sometimes). I believe when the forwards do thier jobs the d can do theirs as well. Any breakdown anywhere makes the d man vulnerable and often outnumbered down low.

You know that's not what I meant. You are just trying to make my statement look foolish.

Gryba has no transition game, which shutdown D need to be able to get from the defensive to the offensive zone. In Gryba's case, he spends an extra 30 seconds playing the shutdown role every other shift because he can't transition to the neutral or offensive zone. Some people really have a shallow understanding of the game.

If you want to make your statement look better by simplifying mine to mean something it doesn't, go right ahead.

 

[Benjamin]

Everybody wants a player like Simmonds.

Philadelphia is no different.

Yup. Than add the fact he's on an amazing contract.

Simmonds wont be traded.

 

[God Says No]

Tootoo cleared. Thank god we didn't claim him.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Tootoo cleared. Thank god we didn't claim him.

Everybody and their cats knew Tootoo would clear. No one needs players and headaches like him.

 

[Hammertyme]

You know that's not what I meant. You are just trying to make my statement look foolish.

Gryba has no transition game, which shutdown D need to be able to get from the defensive to the offensive zone. In Gryba's case, he spends an extra 30 seconds playing the shutdown role every other shift because he can't transition to the neutral or offensive zone. Some people really have a shallow understanding of the game.

If you want to make your statement look better by simplifying mine to mean something it doesn't, go right ahead.

I actually quoted you direct. You made yourself look foolish. Why deflect it?

 

[Lenny the Lynx]

Obviously Simmonds is not getting traded.

But I was just looking at his stats on TSN, its insane how few goals Philly has scored (22 in 14 games). Their leading scorer is a 4 way tie with 7 pts. And Giroux has 0 goals. Might not be news to people but I haven't been following, crazy

 

[God Says No]

Everybody and their cats knew Tootoo would clear. No one needs players and headaches like him.

I know, but some posters here were eager to pick him up.

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Everybody and their cats knew Tootoo would clear. No one needs players and headaches like him.

I've met Tootoo he's actually i good guy. Really down to earth, but he's on he downside of his career.

 

[BondraTime]

I actually quoted you direct. You made yourself look foolish. Why deflect it?

I know you quoted me direct. It was you taking something very far out of context. I guess we will put that down as your own comprehension.

 

[Hammertyme]

I know you quoted me direct. It was you taking something very far out of context. I guess we will put that down as your own comprehension.

Doesn't transition mean change or move? Symantics. You can create any meaning you like if your feeling are hurt.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Doesn't transition mean change or move? Symantics. You can create any meaning you like if your feeling are hurt.

The 2nd part after the quote explained what he meant, so it's not a big deal. For me it's just shut them down, don't let them score, move the puck when possible.

 

[Icelevel]

No further evaluation needed. This team definitely needs another quality dman and a scorer to play with spezza.

2 things

 

[Berserker*]

No further evaluation needed. This team definitely needs another quality dman and a scorer to play with spezza.

2 things

Stone will get an opportunity before we take the trade route.

 

[WhiteLight*]

It was nice knownin ya Andy

 

[Benjamin]

It was nice known ya Andy

Murray just said he wants to keep both goalies.... but wow does this team ever need a top 4 dman.

 

[Stonewall]

- Trade Anderson+ for Enstrom/Byfuglien/Bogosian
- Trade for Jagr at the deadline
- Profit

 

[fringie]

Maybe they can start dressing 7 d-men to see how it goes? Kassian is waste of a spot most nights anyways. If that does not work, they can trade, however a trade like this is hard to make, everyone wants a top 4 defenceman. I am sure BM is making calls, but Boro has helped this team a little bit. If Cowen and Gryba just moves the puck a little better, they may be ok.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Please get Ehrhoff Murray. He'd improve our offense, our PK, our 2nd pairing, our everything.

He also would probably not be that expensive cause of contract and tanking Sabres.

DO IT MURRAY PLEASEEEEEEEE.

I can't wait till Stone gets healthy again and we can trade Greening(Although I'd bet he'd go on a tear with his new team)

 

[BonkTastic]

It was nice knownin ya Andy

Unless he gets dealt, he'll be back in as the starter. Worst case scenario for Andy is that they form a platoon and split the starts.

You might not like it, or agree with it, but that's what's going to happen. No way do the Sens devalue a potential trade chip by making him the full-fledged backup.


He'll come back to start games, or he'll be moved... and I doubt we move him any time soon (as in, not in the next few weeks, at the very least).

 

[Qward]

I dont see why they would use Andy next game. You stick with the hot goalie.

 

[Super Cake]

I want to see a lehner vs. markstrom matchup. The fight to see who is the better prospect.

p.s. Its lehner

 

[Icelevel]

Please get Ehrhoff Murray. He'd improve our offense, our PK, our 2nd pairing, our everything.

He also would probably not be that expensive cause of contract and tanking Sabres.

DO IT MURRAY PLEASEEEEEEEE.

I can't wait till Stone gets healthy again and we can trade Greening(Although I'd bet he'd go on a tear with his new team)

i'd take that bet

 

[Senscore]

Pfft. Lehner only wishes he was a 8.5 C.


All he will ever be is a 7.5 B, no matter what his play, the media, his coaches, stats, and opposing players say.

 

[Stonewall]

Please get Ehrhoff Murray. He'd improve our offense, our PK, our 2nd pairing, our everything.

He also would probably not be that expensive cause of contract and tanking Sabres.

DO IT MURRAY PLEASEEEEEEEE.

I can't wait till Stone gets healthy again and we can trade Greening(Although I'd bet he'd go on a tear with his new team)

He has nine years left on his contract...

 

[Icelevel]

He has nine years left on his contract...

AND he's 31 (important)