Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread XVI

[The Great Weal]

I still think Danault+ for William Karlsson would make a lot of sense. Vegas has Glass coming up and I'm sure Danault can be a good replacement. They can save a lot of money this way. I would then look to extend both Karlsson and Domi long term this offseason before they ask for a lot more. It's a "risk" I'm willing to take.

 

[Vachon23]

We now know the price for a good top 4

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

trouba traded for pionk and the 20th overall

Thats pretty cheap

 

[sharks9]

We now know the price for a good top 4

I'd do that in a heartbeat for an equivalent LD

 

[Vachon23]

I'd do that in a heartbeat for an equivalent LD

Same here

 

[webersshot]

We now know the price for a good top 4

Wtf? That's it? .......wtf lol. We should be able to get a LD

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Wtf? That's it? .......wtf lol. We should be able to get a LD

It's Bergevin.

If he gets one it's likely Fowler because he's overpaid and is on a long contract

 

[26Mats]

I'd do that in a heartbeat for an equivalent LD

But what is the equivalent of Pionk? His numbers are pretty good and he's only 23. Honestly, I don't know his game. 26 points and 21 minutes a night.

Perhaps the equivalent is 15th + Kulak?

 

[26Mats]

trouba traded for pionk and the 20th overall

Thats pretty cheap

I wonder if the Jets would have done Petry + for Trouba to save cap space.

 

[Runner77]

But what is the equivalent of Pionk? His numbers are pretty good and he's only 23. Honestly, I don't know his game. 26 points and 21 minutes a night.

Perhaps the equivalent is 15th + Kulak?

Pionk is no peon.

A solid, puck-moving defenseman, he can put up impressive point totals at lower levels. His offensive instincts also make him a candidate to play on the power play. He makes smart decisions with the puck most of the time. Does not have ideal size (6-0, 190 pounds) for the National Hockey League. Therefore, he needs to add bulk and get physically stronger in order to maximize production at the highest level. Should shoot the puck more often.

Long Range Potential: S9lid defenseman with some upside.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Why don't the Habs see what they can get for Petry at this point?

 

[Runner77]

Wtf? That's it? .......wtf lol. We should be able to get a LD

 

[26Mats]

Pionk is no peon.

A solid, puck-moving defenseman, he can put up impressive point totals at lower levels. His offensive instincts also make him a candidate to play on the power play. He makes smart decisions with the puck most of the time. Does not have ideal size (6-0, 190 pounds) for the National Hockey League. Therefore, he needs to add bulk and get physically stronger in order to maximize production at the highest level. Should shoot the puck more often.

Long Range Potential: S9lid defenseman with some upside.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

How does WPG also get a first round pick on top of Pionk?

Why don't the Habs see what they can get for Petry at this point?

Trouba's 25. Petry will be 31. 6 prime years makes them very different assets. The return of Pionk and #20 overall seems low to me. I would want a top 10 pick for a talent like Trouba. #20 and Pionk seem like two good, but not great assets, for a great asset.

Perhaps Juulsen and #15 overall is closer to, and probably better than, the NYR offer.

 

[NobleSix]

That's pretty bad for the Jets. Trouba probably said the only team he would extend with was the rags. No other excuse for that return.

 

[The Great Weal]

That's pretty bad for the Jets. Trouba probably said the only team he would extend with was the rags. No other excuse for that return.

Yeah that's pretty much my take on it. They need the cap space and Trouba obviously wanted out. Who can say no to New York?

 

[Runner77]

Trouba's 25. Petry will be 31. 6 prime years makes them very different assets. The return of Pionk and #20 overall seems low to me. I would want a top 10 pick for a talent like Trouba. #20 and Pionk seem like two good, but not great assets, for a great asset.

Perhaps Juulsen and #15 overall is closer to, and probably better than, the NYR offer.

Of course they're different assets. It's obvious.

It's not about comparing Trouba to Petry, it's about finding out what his market value might be in case an antsy GM is prepared to overpay.

 

[26Mats]

Of course they're different assets. It's obvious.

It's not about comparing Trouba to Petry, it's about finding out what his market value might be in case an antsy GM is prepared to overpay.

yeah I just don't know if 20th overall and Pionk is over payment. I would give up 15th overall and Juulsen for Trouba.

So given Trouba is worth a lot more than Petry, this trade only indicates we'd get significantly less than 20th overall and Pionk for Petry.

 

[crosbyshow]

We dont see very often an American born player signing in Canada as UFA...so Trouba was out of the question in Mtl.

 

[26Mats]

We dont see very often an American born player signing in Canada as UFA...so Trouba was out of the question in Mtl.

he's an rfa. You only make the trade if you talk to him and know he's willing to sign long term.

 

[DubDub]

We dont see very often an American born player signing in Canada as UFA...so Trouba was out of the question in Mtl.

If he was a Ufa the haul would be much,much more then Poink and a 1st.

 

[Andrei79]

yeah I just don't know if 20th overall and Pionk is over payment. I would give up 15th overall and Juulsen for Trouba.

So given Trouba is worth a lot more than Petry, this trade only indicates we'd get significantly less than 20th overall and Pionk for Petry.

I don't think this trades indicates anything more than previous bad trades have in the past.

 

[Tiger Svoboda]

It’s only 1 year of Trouba. You have to consider that

 

[The Great Weal]

I don't think this trades indicates anything more than previous bad trades have in the past.

Also the Jets had no leverage. They have cap problems and Trouba basically said that he would only sign longterm for certain cities. That plummets his value big time.

 

[crosbyshow]

If he was a Ufa the haul would be much,much more then Poink and a 1st.

In 1 year he could sign in ny....not in Mtl

 

[26Mats]

I don't think this trades indicates anything more than previous bad trades have in the past.

yeah I was looking for the right word. I was thinking "IF this trade is any indication..." But as you point out, it's probably not an indication of the market. It's just one of those bad trades that a lucky GM like the Rangers' GM has the opportunity to pounce on every once in a while.

But you gotta wonder: where were the other 30 GM's who didn't make better offers?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Would the Avs do 4thOV+ for Carey Price? I guess it depens on the +. CP is a West Coast all-star, the Rockies are his home, and the Habs are going nowhere. Colorado is on the up but lacking goaltending cost them a series at least if not the cup. Meanwhile, for the Habs, it starts the much needed rebuild. Bergevin would save his legacy doing this, people wouldn't remember him as a bad GM anymore if he kicked started a rebuild, 100% proof legacy even if he lost his job.

Ahhhh, what? You do realize the only starting goalies in the playoffs to have better stats than Grubauer were Lehner, Rask, and Bobrovsky?


This is such a ridiculously poor take.


As for your suggestion of 4th OV+ for Price? Yeah no, Avs dont want Price at all.