Trade Ideas and Free Agency XXVIII

[Dr Jan Itor]

I'm pretty content with the roster as is right now.

 

[2Pair]

I'm pretty content with the roster as is right now.

That's usually the best time to make a deal.

 

[Wabit]

I'm pretty content with the roster as is right now.

I'd like to get a quality 3C (or higher) and bump JEE to the 4th line over Brown.

 

[Bazeek]

I'd like to get a quality 3C (or higher) and bump JEE to the 4th line over Brown.

Any thoughts on Dylan Strome? Scuttlebutt on the Yotes forum is that he might be available. Seems like he might always struggle with the speed of the NHL, but you never know what a change of scenery might do for a guy like that.

 

[2Pair]

Any thoughts on Dylan Strome? Scuttlebutt on the Yotes forum is that he might be available. Seems like he might always struggle with the speed of the NHL, but you never know what a change of scenery might do for a guy like that.

Not much interest if it costs anything from the current roster.

 

[Bazeek]

Not much interest if it costs anything from the current roster.

Going by Arizona fans we're talking about more like a 2nd.

 

[2Pair]

Going by Arizona fans we're talking about more like a 2nd.

A 2nd for Strome? In a second, but I really doubt that's all it would take.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Sure. It’s pretty uncomfortable that we still have our 2nd anyway.

 

[Bazeek]

A 2nd for Strome? In a second, but I really doubt that's all it would take.

It does strike me more like the talk of a fanbase that's rightfully disappointed in their 3rd overall pick than what Chayka would actually accept. You'd think he'd be looking to add more immediate scoring up front. I'm sure Nino or Zucker would be of interest, but at that point Strome would have to be the + on whatever the main piece is. I can't imagine a deal like that not making the Wild weaker in the short term, and I don't see a reason to do that right now.

 

[Wabit]

Any thoughts on Dylan Strome? Scuttlebutt on the Yotes forum is that he might be available. Seems like he might always struggle with the speed of the NHL, but you never know what a change of scenery might do for a guy like that.

I'm all for taking a chance on a struggling young FWD, if the price is cheap. I'm not sending a 1st or anything like that. Coyle is about the most I'd spend in most minor trades (he's worth about a 2nd/3rd currently imo), but I'd rather spend a 2nd/3rd or a prospect from the GMCF era that GMPF doesn't like.

The only reason I say Coyle is because it looks like he's done with MN and needs a change.

 

[2Pair]

I'm all for taking a chance on a struggling young FWD, if the price is cheap. I'm not sending a 1st or anything like that. Coyle is about the most I'd spend in most minor trades (he's worth about a 2nd/3rd currently imo), but I'd rather spend a 2nd/3rd or a prospect from the GMCF era that GMPF doesn't like.

The only reason I say Coyle is because it looks like he's done with MN and needs a change.

Coyle gets a 1st rather easily.

 

[Bazeek]

I'm all for taking a chance on a struggling young FWD, if the price is cheap. I'm not sending a 1st or anything like that. Coyle is about the most I'd spend in most minor trades (he's worth about a 2nd/3rd currently imo), but I'd rather spend a 2nd/3rd or a prospect from the GMCF era that GMPF doesn't like.

The only reason I say Coyle is because it looks like he's done with MN and needs a change.

Am I the only one that thinks Coyle has actually been pretty good this year? He's been a pretty important part of that third line coalescing into something effective.

 

[2Pair]

Am I the only one that thinks Coyle has actually been pretty good this year? He's been a pretty important part of that third line coalescing into something effective.

People got hung up on the first handful of games and refuse to see anything differently since then.

 

[Wabit]

Coyle gets a 1st rather easily.

Not even close. He's a middle-6er on a fair deal at this point. Him playing hurt last year tanked his value, and he hasn't done much this year to raise it. He's playing at about the same points pace as last year. Advanced stats don't love him, he's not good at FOs, and isn't lighting up the scoreboard.

Brassard only got a 3rd last year, I don't see Coyle being worth more than that.

 

[Wabit]

Am I the only one that thinks Coyle has actually been pretty good this year? He's been a pretty important part of that third line coalescing into something effective.

Actually I think it's Greenway realizing he can be a force on the ice that's been driving the 3rd line. I bagged on him a lot early in the year, but he's looked like a different player since his AHL stint.

 

[Minnesnota]

Coyle gets a 1st rather easily.

If this were true he would've been gone already.

 

[2Pair]

Not even close. He's a middle-6er on a fair deal at this point. Him playing hurt last year tanked his value, and he hasn't done much this year to raise it. He's playing at about the same points pace as last year. Advanced stats don't love him, he's not good at FOs, and isn't lighting up the scoreboard.

Brassard only got a 3rd last year, I don't see Coyle being worth more than that.

Huh?

 

[2Pair]

If this were true he would've been gone already.

If the Wild could get another Coyle for their 1st, Fenton would've done it already

 

[Wabit]

Huh?

Brassard for a 3rd from OTT to Vegas, then Reaves+ 4th Vegas to Pit

 

[Bazeek]

Actually I think it's Greenway realizing he can be a force on the ice that's been driving the 3rd line. I bagged on him a lot early in the year, but he's looked like a different player since his AHL stint.

Greenway also still looks a little lost in his own end relatively frequently. I don't want to say that Coyle has been "babysitting" them, but I don't think that line would be seeing the icetime it has without him either. If Greenway and Ek keep building off a good stretch of games here it'll pay dividends for Coyle as well, especially if he starts shooting a little more.

All that aside, I think his price tag and utility still make him someone we want to keep around for now.

 

[2Pair]

Brassard for a 3rd from OTT to Vegas, then Reaves+ 4th Vegas to Pit

You're missing quite a bit from that deal

 

[Wabit]

You're missing quite a bit from that deal

You're right. I totally missed the Cole cap dump and other stuff. My bad.

 

[2Pair]

Going back to the Strome discussion. If you were confident he could be a 20 goal 40 point guy playing 15 a night between Coyle and Greenway, would you give up a 1st for him?

 

[Wabit]

Going back to the Strome discussion. If you were confident he could be a 20 goal 40 point guy playing 15 a night between Coyle and Greenway, would you give up a 1st for him?

I'm not confidant he's any better than JEE currently.

Currently I'm very hesitant to give up a 1st at all, too much of the season is left, and I'm not confidant that the team makes the Playoffs. But if they were a lock for the Playoffs, and were offered a 21/22 y.o. center, with another year left on his ELC, looking at a 20g/20a season I'd trade a 20 something pick for him.

I wouldn't trade a 1st for Ryan Strome if he was having the same 20g/20a season. I think he is what he is at this point of his career and it's nothing special.

 

[2Pair]

I'm not confidant he's any better than JEE currently.

Currently I'm very hesitant to give up a 1st at all, too much of the season is left, and I'm not confidant that the team makes the Playoffs. But if they were a lock for the Playoffs, and were offered a 21/22 y.o. center, with another year left on his ELC, looking at a 20g/20a season I'd trade a 20 something pick for him.

I wouldn't trade a 1st for Ryan Strome if he was having the same 20g/20a season. I think he is what he is at this point of his career and it's nothing special.

1. Dylan Strome. Not Ryan
2. It's a hypothetical question where he is a 40 point player, so the comment about Ek is pointless.
3. Anything is possible in a long season, but you're not paying attention if you're not confident in this team.