Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XVII

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AKL

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No way Spooner returns a top 3 dman.The team taking Spooner are assuming all the risk while the Bruins are assuming none.While Spooner has potential the amount of time he has been performing well in the NHL is too short to trade away proven assets without the Bruins adding more.If the Bruins are so sure he will hit 60 points this season they should wait until the offseason to trade him because his value would be higher and the risk assumed by the other team may be seen as less.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think Spooner's value is?

It's funny cause you guys want to trade for Drouin and RNH based on their potential. I'd rather trade for a guy who's been improving every season with the potential for more than a guy who hasn't had one season where he's improved, with the potential for improvement down the line.

At this point, Spooner and RNH are very comparable players, the only differences are that one was drafted 1st overall and hasn't lived up to the hype, and the other is making under 1M for the next year before becoming an RFA (the other, by comparison, making 6M a year for the next 5 years, where he becomes a UFA).

The money itself is almost worth any perceived difference in ability right now, and on top of that you get an extra 1st round pick.
 
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If you guys are ok with trading Brodin and Haula for RNH, then Brodin for Spooner and a 1st should be a slam dunk. Dude is a gamer. He's not a perimeter player and he's not afraid to shoot. He has 33 points on the season playing 14.5 minutes per game.
 

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If you guys are ok with trading Brodin and Haula for RNH, then Brodin for Spooner and a 1st should be a slam dunk. Dude is a gamer. He's not a perimeter player and he's not afraid to shoot. He has 33 points on the season playing 14.5 minutes per game.

Dont know a single thing about Spooner, but if what you and Pod say about him is true and hes legit, then yeah thats a slam dunk... dont even think about it trade.
 

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If you guys are ok with trading Brodin and Haula for RNH, then Brodin for Spooner and a 1st should be a slam dunk. Dude is a gamer. He's not a perimeter player and he's not afraid to shoot. He has 33 points on the season playing 14.5 minutes per game.
Devin Setoguchi had 65 pts when he was 22 years old,he never came close to those numbers again.You don't trade away a young player like Brodin who has a proven level of skill and consistancy in the NHL for 3 years for a guy who has had a good stretch of 44 games,but has never played an entire season,and hasn't proven he can continue to perform as he has on a consistant basis in the NHL.
 

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Wait, wait, wait. Am I crazy but you guys want to address the depth issues and long term issues by trading more players and prospects for unknowns in hopes they will turn into something. Um...okay. Great. Why not trade Tuch, JEE as well?
 

grN1g

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Wait, wait, wait. Am I crazy but you guys want to address the depth issues and long term issues by trading more players and prospects for unknowns in hopes they will turn into something. Um...okay. Great. Why not trade Tuch, JEE as well?

thats the point TSK, we as in me, you and everyone else who disagree's have not watched enough to really have a solid opinion on a player like Spooner.

If Pod and AKL are in fact die hard fans on the bruins and watch them as much or as close to the Wild, ill trust their opinion that Spooner would not be an "unproven" risk.

and if you look back on my post about what i believe this team lacks, its clear i think a #1 RW dynamic talent is what i think we lack, but we also lack top2 C talent outside of Granny/Koivu right now... if Spooner is in fact legit as hes so far proven with his production than i dont see why we dont kill two birds with 1 stone.

RyJo would have been perfect, hes the Dynamic young talented scorer we need, but also a center we can truly build around.
 

grN1g

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Devin Setoguchi had 65 pts when he was 22 years old,he never came close to those numbers again.You don't trade away a young player like Brodin who has a proven level of skill and consistancy in the NHL for 3 years for a guy who has had a good stretch of 44 games,but has never played an entire season,and hasn't proven he can continue to perform as he has on a consistant basis in the NHL.

The point hes making is RNH is hardly an upgrade to Granlund right now, with double the price tag, and not a very good injury history so far.

Spooner is putting up just as good as numbers in a lesser role and now in a bigger one, while not having a bad injury history and they're throwing a 1st on top of a deal for Haula... if you are ok with losing Brodin + Haula for RNH, YOU SHOULD BE GITTY WITH JOY if we got Spooner + BOS 1st for Brodin + haula imo.

Sign on the dotted line right now.

Spooner + 1st > RNH

Spooner + 1st MAYBE even > Couture now.

Parise - Spooner - Coyle
Zucker - Koivu - Nino
Vanek - Granlund - Pominville
Carter/Porter - Stoll - Fontain

Id be perfectly ok with that lineup going into playoffs or fighting for the spot the rest of the way if we are willing to move that package for RNH... its going to be more difficult than it was last year cause its so improbable we will put up that type of run to squeak in again if all these teams that are slumping decide to find their game and do we really want to have to deal with more cap troubles? 6m cap for RNH compared to Spooners 2 more years ELC.
 
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thestonedkoala

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Or maybe not trade anyone and you know get better scouts and better development teams here. WE DO NOT need to trade anyone or any picks.
 

grN1g

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Or maybe not trade anyone and you know get better scouts and better development teams here. WE DO NOT need to trade anyone or any picks.

its very clear that wont happen TSK unless this team just fails at developing anyone and this team turns into a bottom feeder, so for you to keep throwing that out there at this point is just useless cause it ain't going to happen anytime soon.

You got to pick a new battle to fight.
 

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Spooner is no slouch and for me who doesn't really know a whole lot about him besides from what im told and can see on highlights, he does in fact look like a Gamer that could make us more competitive right now, more so than RNH imo... that 1st is included? well thats just the beautiful cherry on top of the masterful Sundae
 
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The point hes making is RNH is hardly an upgrade to Granlund right now, with double the price tag, and not a very good injury history so far.

Spooner is putting up just as good as numbers in a lesser role and now in a bigger one, while not having a bad injury history and they're throwing a 1st on top of a deal for Haula... if you are ok with losing Brodin + Haula for RNH, YOU SHOULD BE GITTY WITH JOY if we got Spooner + BOS 1st for Brodin + haula imo.

Sign on the dotted line right now.

Spooner + 1st > RNH

Spooner + 1st MAYBE even > Couture now.

Parise - Spooner - Coyle
Zucker - Koivu - Nino
Vanek - Granlund - Pominville
Carter/Porter - Stoll - Fontain

Id be perfectly ok with that lineup going into playoffs or fighting for the spot the rest of the way if we are willing to move that package for RNH... its going to be more difficult than it was last year cause its so improbable we will put up that type of run to squeak in again if all these teams that are slumping decide to find their game and do we really want to have to deal with more cap troubles? 6m cap for RNH compared to Spooners 2 more years ELC.
Where to even start?Granlund on the third line is a bad idea.Coyle is not a first line player he is a very effective third line player who can move up when needed.Spooner is not a #1 center and expecting him to be one based on 43 games is foolhardy.Maybe Spooner will become everything some people are saying or maybe he won't.You don't trade away proven assets for that kind of risk it is simply not smart.
 

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its very clear that wont happen TSK unless this team just fails at developing anyone and this team turns into a bottom feeder, so for you to keep throwing that out there at this point is just useless cause it ain't going to happen anytime soon.

You got to pick a new battle to fight.

Except we haven't developed anyone. These mid-season swoons always happen because we don't have the depth or the skill. This isn't the first time we have had this problem. We ask the kids to pick up and they haven't. We asked the veterans to pick up and they haven't. Something has to give and trading isn't going to fix the issue.
 

AJ Thelen

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Except we haven't developed anyone. These mid-season swoons always happen because we don't have the depth or the skill. This isn't the first time we have had this problem. We ask the kids to pick up and they haven't. We asked the veterans to pick up and they haven't. Something has to give and trading isn't going to fix the issue.


But trades gets our blood pumping! TRADE-TRADE-TRADE!
 

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Balls out for Galchenyuk. Pominville + Dumba + 1st.

Including Poms makes that very much balls in.

There is only talk of him being traded ( by some) for Drouin, who is a Montrealer, and therefore a possible Demi- God .
 
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