Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XVI

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[nickschultzfan]

If we are going to give up a guy like Brodin, I rather both keep Granlund and get RNH instead, who should be cheaper than Johansen.

 

[kfan22]

I saw a John Buccigross Tweet yesterday and he said He cant see Johansen finishing the year in Columbus

 

[57special]

If we are going to give up a guy like Brodin, I rather both keep Granlund and get RNH instead, who should be cheaper than Johansen.

I think Granlund is overkill as a #3C, so we might as well let him go (if we can get value). I'm not crazy about letting any of our top4 go, though.

I just don't know if we will be a better team with RNH and minus Brodin+.

Does RyJo get back and cover in front of the net in the D zone, or is he always flying out early in order to create offense?

Does he cover for a pinching Dman at the point?

Does he play a 200' game?

I can't see Yeo being happy with an offense only, floating C. A C in the Wild's scheme has to be a really hard worker, and not just show up in the O zone.

 

[Billy Mays Here*]

I mean, I doubt Fletcher makes any big moves this season, probably won't make any moves at all since the team is playing about where we expected they would and we don't have the cap room either. Not expecting an interesting off-season either even if we should suffer another early round playoff exit or God forbid, miss the playoffs entirely. Backstrom is the only significant contract coming off the books and you can bet all of that will be going towards a Spurgeon extension, which might take even more than the $3.4 million cap hit that Backstrom had. Then you've got Zucker, Dumba, Graovac and Kuemper as RFAs that need to be re-signed, though we'll see what they do with Kuemper. On top of that I hope they re-sign Fontaine and Carter, Porter I could care less about. So Fletcher is going to have his hands full just re-signing his own players and making sure we stay below the cap, yet alone going out and making a big trade for a Johansen or a Nugent-Hopkins.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Graovac should get a deal like Zucker's 2nd, 2 years x $900k per year, first year 2-way, second year 1 way, depending on when/if he comes back from injury and how he plays.

Dumba isn't looking at anything more than $1.5M on a 2 year bridge.

Hoping we could get Zucker in at ~$3.5M on however many years. Just a guess, but I don't think he's going to want to do another 2-3 year deal, after seeing Coyle, Brodin and Scandella get their terms, so depending on how the rest of his year goes, he may creep up over $4M.

Spurgeon should be looking at ~$5.5M over longer term (5-7 years). Maybe he'd take a little cut, but I doubt it.

Zucker (~$4M) - Koivu ($6.75M) - Nino ($2.667M)
Parise ($7.539) - Granlund - ($3M) - Pommer ($5.6M)
Vanek ($6.5M) - Graovac ($900k) - Coyle ($3.2M)
Haula ($1M)
Cooke buyout ($1M)

Suter ($7.539M) - Spurgeon (~$5.5M)
Scandella ($4M) - Brodin ($4.167M)
Olofsson ($900k) - Dumba ($1.5M)
Prosser ($625k)

Dubnuk $4.333

That's $70.7M before adding 3 4th line forwards and a backup goalie, so hopefully the cap is in the $74-$75M range.

 

[Billy Mays Here*]

Spurgeon should be looking at ~$5.5M over longer term (5-7 years). Maybe he'd take a little cut, but I doubt it.

Over $5 million per for Spurgeon? Yikes, not sure he's worth that.

 

[BB88]

Over $5 million per for Spurgeon? Yikes, not sure he's worth that.

That's a 2nd pairing money these days and that will be his 3rd contract.

Petry 27y 5.5M, 25 points last year,
Sekera 29y 5.5M, 23 points last year.

 

[WildisLaw]

The 200 foot hockey mindset has lead this franchise to mediocrity since inception. You need elite offensive talent to win the cup. A team full of two way players is redundant and it's gotten us nowhere. You need different role guys. Guys who focus on offense and guys who focus on defense. You can't run the Penguins system without malkin and crosby.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Over $5 million per for Spurgeon? Yikes, not sure he's worth that.

He's a prime-aged #2/#3 defenseman. I think he's absolutely worth that.

 

[JoCro11]

He is definitely worth the money, but I think he will sign for $4.5 million if we give him an advantageous term and he likes other pieces we bring in. Granlund is certainly overkill for a #3 C so deal him if it means you can hold onto Brodin and bring in a true #1 C (i.e. Johansen). I don't think Johansen would be an offensive zone only player, but I do think he should be the outlet (speed, 1on1 skills, shot) because he can break out by himself. Let him float a little, but essentially as a poke-check/stick check specialist.

 

[Wild11MN]

I don't think there's any chance Spurgey signs for only $4.5M. I'd gladly pay $5.5M for him if it worked and term wasn't ridiculous, and as BB88 mentioned, that's the going rate for good #2/3 defensemen these days.

 

[57special]

I mean, I doubt Fletcher makes any big moves this season, probably won't make any moves at all since the team is playing about where we expected they would and we don't have the cap room either. Not expecting an interesting off-season either even if we should suffer another early round playoff exit or God forbid, miss the playoffs entirely. Backstrom is the only significant contract coming off the books and you can bet all of that will be going towards a Spurgeon extension, which might take even more than the $3.4 million cap hit that Backstrom had.

Well, Spurge is making 2.6 M now. Add 3.4M and that's more than enough to pay him. I would try to sign him long term for under 5M per. I think that's fair.

 

[Bruce Granville]

He'll get a NTC for sure.

 

[tomgilbertfan]

 

[Wild11MN]

Looks like current cap is 71.4. That'd be a decent jump if true. What's the low number here?

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Looks like current cap is 71.4. That'd be a decent jump if true. What's the low number here?

$71.4. It could not change at all.

 

[gwh]

Any ideas how to make 3-3 better at the deadline? .500 is a minimum acceptable performance...

 

[AKL]

Any ideas how to make 3-3 better at the deadline? .500 is a minimum acceptable performance...

You don't go out and trade valuable assets for someone who may or may not help in a tiny facet of the game that's not even relevant come playoff time.

 

[gwh]

tiny facet of the game

That tiny facet of the game has already cost us 3 team points this year.

At this speed it will cost us 9 points by the end of the season. Could turn a 95 point season to 84 point season and miss the playoffs.

I think we need about 0% powerplay to lose 9 points on powerplay performance during a season, just as an example.

 

[JoCro11]

Any ideas how to make 3-3 better at the deadline? .500 is a minimum acceptable performance...

Give Zucker more 3-3 time with Parise and Suter. Zucker is our one player right now who will naturally skate at defenders 1v1 and he has the wheels/shot to capitalize. His energy and mobility will open space for Parise to shoot and Suter to place his shots. He has the defensive commitment to get back, he is a great outlet for Suter because he is always moving. That pairing would be I think our most dangerous. I know he would technically be playing his off hand, but 3-3 the space is such that that doesn't matter as much. Thoughts?

 

[Generic User]

That tiny facet of the game has already cost us 3 team points this year.

At this speed it will cost us 9 points by the end of the season. Could turn a 95 point season to 84 point season and miss the playoffs.

I think we need about 0% powerplay to lose 9 points on powerplay performance during a season, just as an example.

Yeah, but if you chase two rabbits you'll catch neither. At this point in the season it doesn't make sense to do anything drastic just to fix potential 3-on-3 overtime issues. The team needs to focus on what it does well and do it better.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

All they need in 3-on-3 is a little more Zucker and Dumba, Fontaine and Spurgeon, a little less Koivu and Suter out there.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

How about we just capitalize on one of the 3 or 4 prime scoring opportunities that we've been getting?

It's not a personnel issues, or even a scheme issue, it's an execution issue.

 

[BusQuets]

How about we just capitalize on one of the 3 or 4 prime scoring opportunities that we've been getting?

It's not a personnel issues, or even a scheme issue, it's an execution issue.

Agree with this. It's not like Mitchell who scored the goal is better than any Wild player.