Speculation: Trade & Free Agency Talk XLII

[Dr Jan Itor]

yeah I don't know. It'd be a tough call. I don't want to lose him but you can'y pay 9 million if there's a chance he's a 60-70 point winger

The way I’m kind of looking at it: 4 years brings us to the end of Parise and Suter deals, so that’s $15m that just opens up wide open. We still have the 8th year on our side for the next deal, and it would still only take him to 35 (not ideal, but not the end of the world). And for the 4 years in the meantime, we could have a PPG+ player for only ~$7m.

It does depend on how “reasonable” those 4 years are though.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

The way I’m kind of looking at it: 4 years brings us to the end of Parise and Suter deals, so that’s $15m that just opens up wide open. We still have the 8th year on our side for the next deal, and it would still only take him to 35 (not ideal, but not the end of the world). And for the 4 years in the meantime, we could have a PPG+ player for only ~$7m.

It does depend on how “reasonable” those 4 years are though.

yeah, it's certainly better than 3 years. you're gambling a lot on us being in a good spot in 4 years to continue to compete. If we're entering a rebuild, we probably trade him in the last year of that deal for futures. I don't think we'll be entering a rebuild, but if Rossi/Boldy/Addison don't hit, it's possible. 5 years might be the sweet spot. 5x7.5 isn't the worst deal.

 

[ThatGuy22]

So his “threat” would be to make ~$6m over there for the next 3 years instead of $21-$24m here, and then be banking on a team giving him top dollar and top term, sight unseen for 3 years, with still only 56 games of NHL equity.

I can’t say I’m all that worried about this right now.

Ya, "Big money" doesn't really exist in the KHL anymore since they implemented the Salary cap. Before the salary cap they implemented just recently, you would have deals in the 3-5 million range, but that doesn't exist anymore.

 

[57special]

The agents Russo talked to think we might have to touch 9 on an 8 year deal to get him signed.

Russo also adds a good point that Kaprizov’s bonuses will eat into out 22 million in space next year.

I think that is ridiculous. We'll see how he finishes the season, but giving 72M after one shortened season is crazy. Pastrnak got a 6 x 6.66M contract after a three year ELC, the final year of which he scored 70 pts. The cap is not going up for the foreseeable future, and salaries are staying flat, if not going down.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Wild will move at least 1 contract by the deadline to address the Kap bonus issue (at least in part).

 

[HotDish]

Wild will move at least 1 contract by the deadline to address the Kap bonus issue (at least in part).

I might be 100% wrong but I'm pretty sure bonus money for rookies count against the cap in the following year. If it goes over.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I might be 100% wrong but I'm pretty sure bonus money for rookies count against the cap in the following year. If it goes over.

I think we can put some to this year if we finish under.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Elias Lindholm anyone?

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Elias Lindholm anyone?

Is he available? If so where are you playing him?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Is he available? If so where are you playing him?

Not sure, but Calgary seems pretty fragile right now.

Center.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Not sure, but Calgary seems pretty fragile right now.

Center.

Lol fair enough. Yeah I see them selling a lot, would not hate to grab him, still young with strong faceoff presence and decent shooting percent.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

Lol fair enough. Yeah I see them selling a lot, would not hate to grab him, still young with strong faceoff presence and decent shooting percent.

If chuck fletcher team sell, wild should go after Center Coulture or hope I spelled his name right

 

[2Pair]

Elias Lindholm anyone?

He was this boards version of Nick Schmaltz from like 2-3 years ago. Would be even more interested now

 

[DeagleJenkins]

If chuck fletcher team sell, wild should go after Center Coulture or hope I spelled his name right

Why not chase their younger centers?

 

[P10p]

I think that is ridiculous. We'll see how he finishes the season, but giving 72M after one shortened season is crazy. Pastrnak got a 6 x 6.66M contract after a three year ELC, the final year of which he scored 70 pts. The cap is not going up for the foreseeable future, and salaries are staying flat, if not going down.

Using one of the best contracts in the league as a comparison is obviously going to skew your analysis.

 

[2Pair]

Why not chase their younger centers?

Because they don't have a younger center that's anywhere near as good?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Elias Lindholm anyone?

Would do unsanitary things to get him on this team

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Because they don't have a younger center that's anywhere near as good?

Fletcher witnessed here how hard it is to draft and develop a number 1 center,m. I can’t imagine he’s going to let Couturier go in his prime. There aren’t a lot of players that play better hockey than that guy.

 

[2Pair]

Fletcher witnessed here how hard it is to draft and develop a number 1 center,m. I can’t imagine he’s going to let Couturier go in his prime. There aren’t a lot of players that play better hockey than that guy.

Yeah, he would be the last guy on that roster that I would consider trading.

 

[Spurgeon]

Wild will move at least 1 contract by the deadline to address the Kap bonus issue (at least in part).

We can also address it by buying out Parise and opening up $5.2M in space next year, which I still think is the best route for the team to take if Parise doesn’t waive his NMC for the ED.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Would do unsanitary things to get him on this team

Both 2021 1sts?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Both 2021 1sts?

Sure. We’d have to do something else to make the cap work, though.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Sure. We’d have to do something else to make the cap work, though.

Rask.

 

[grN1g]

Yeah, he would be the last guy on that roster that I would consider trading.

Laugton, Patrick are intriguing imo

 

[grN1g]

Both 2021 1sts?

I know not every trade needs to be for a center but hasn't he mostly been wing his whole career?

Edit: Duck it. I'm in you s.o.b's

Rask
1st
1st

Lindholm
3rd

Where is the dotted line for me to sign.