Speculation: Trade & Free Agency Talk XLII

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  1. TaLoN Red 5 standing by

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    I think it’s very fair to prefer Boldy over Rossi. A lot has changed since Rossi was drafted.

    I see Boldy as a surefire Top 6 W. I think it very likely he finds chemistry with one of Fiala or Kaprizov, hopefully the latter. He’s smart and is used to playing with elite linemates. It’s reasonable to be very high on his NHL future right now.

    Rossi still has much more to prove and I’m not sure his ceiling is much higher than Boldy’s anyway. We don’t know what impact this condition has had on his body or his mind. It’s only natural to temper expectations a bit. I am betting on him because he seems like a hard-working kid and I think he is finding ways to improve even while he can’t skate. But I’d bet money that opposing GMs value Boldy more right now.
     
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  3. AKL Boldly Save Us

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    I'm not worried, he's #feelingbetter

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    I personally think their value is pretty close right now, and because of how close it is, the position played actually can be a factor.

    Rossi's condition is a short term concern in that it's keeping him off the ice and likely not doing any favors for his playing shape. Luckily he's a young and very driven player, so I don't think he'll have an issue getting back on the horse and getting to work once cleared.

    That's why I consider it only a short term concern.

    Both players have a pretty high ceiling IMO, Rossi's may be just a bit higher and in the more important position... so if I had to choose only one, I probably go with Rossi ATM, but it's not an easy choice.

    I'd like to keep both in the long run though.

    Work around a package of Dumba and Greenway and see if we can get there instead.

    If they need a center in return... start with Ek and see where we can get to in building a deal.
     
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    agreed.
     
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    As someone dealing with long term effects of COVID, I'd honestly trade Rossi over Boldy. I was a NCAA baseball player and still worked out 4-5 times a week. I was in better shape then prob 90-95% of the general public. COVID has absolutely decimated me to the point where I get winded walking up stairs. I'd worry about Rossi's future and development. That being said, my offer to BUF would be:

    Dumba
    Rossi
    Both '21 1sts
    Rask

    I bet that could get the deal done and wouldn't ruin our team currently and we could still deal off Bonino, Johansson, and Bjugstad for whatever futures we can get. (Prob 3rd to 7th round picks at best)
     
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    Buffalo clearly wasn’t high on Rossi this fall when they took Quinn over him, so I don’t see them having much interest now after all the recent developments.
     
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    Unfair critique here. Much like it's unfair for the public to assume COVID wouldn't sideline a young guy like Rossi for a long period, it's unfair for you to assume Rossi would go from high-performing athlete to struggling to get up a flight of stairs.
     
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    zucc- eichel- fiala
    boldy- getzlaf/statsny?- kaprizov
    greenway-ek-foligno
    parise-sturm-hartman?

    seems like a solid lineup until we get a 2c

    i could get on board with this
     
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    I guess I value our 1st and EK way too much since I wouldn't do that deal. But sounds like that's just me since it seems like others would do the deal from a wild perspective at least.
     
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    That's a very fair offer, IMO. Loved the way you slipped in Rask at the end.:thumbu:
     
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    You would rather have Ek (#3C) and a 1st round pick which may or may not turn into an NHL player instead of Jack Eichel who is one of the best #1Cs in NHL?????
     
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    He pretty much has to be in there for cap reasons.
     
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    All of this Eichel talk is making me sad, knowing it’s prob not going to happen.
     
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    I'd do the deal.

    Sell off the free agents at deadline if we are out. Hope for the best on a run if in.

    Next year

    Zucc Eichel Kap
    Boldy Ek Fiala
    Foligno xxxx Greenway
    Parise Sturm Hartman

    Brodin Spurgeon
    Suter Menell/Addison
    xxxx Addison/Menell
    Mermis
    Belpeido
     
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    Probably only ~$2M to fill those two open spots. Can be done, but it’d be extremely tight.
     
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    Cole for minimum.
    Hartman/Parise to center if we can't fill with a good deal. Mayhew/? For the 4th line rw?

    Deal Hartman thats another 1.8m
     
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    Cole is better than a league minimum guy, but we do have options with guys like Hartman, Foligno and maybe even Talbot.
     
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    I wouldn't say he's far above it but yeah we do have options. I just personally think if we want to establish a winning culture Foligno should stay and Greenway size is almost unmatched in the league. Those 2 on a line has the potential to utterly dominate physically throughout the league.

    Not skilled enough to win off just scoring imo. Mix of skilled and big and we can just overwhelm the best teams or compete with the biggest.
     
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    Assuming Eichel is out of our price range, what do people think about Kuznetsov? Washington fans seem to be overreacting to a poor start to the season for him and are willing to let him go. Who know s if their management shares these feelings, but if you can get him without touching Boldy/Rossi, I think you pull the trigger. They're fans were fine with Dumba + Pittsburgh 1st + Bonino for Kuznestov + Jensen. That would give us this for next season:

    Zuccarello-Kuznetsov-Kaprizov
    Greenway-Rossi-Fiala
    Boldy-Ek-xxx
    Foligno-Sturm-Parise

    Suter-Spurgeon
    Brodin-Jensen
    xxx-Addison

    Talbot
    Kahk

    still have a first likely in the 10-20 range
     
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    Yeah I’m in.
     
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