Trade, FA, Rumour Thread

[tbcwpg]

Plus his agent !!

I don't care about his agent. It's one more year of that kind of stuff and then when he's a UFA the agent tricks matter a lot less.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

You know... copps agent just does what copp tells him to do so going off on his agent is odd since the agent works for copp and not the other way around. If copp didn't wanna go arb last time he wouldn't have.. if he doesn't want to this time he won't but seems to me he is ok with that.. almost like it's his decision and not overhardts

 

[GCn07]

You know... copps agent just does what copp tells him to do so going off on his agent is odd since the agent works for copp and not the other way around. If copp didn't wanna go arb last time he wouldn't have.. if he doesn't want to this time he won't but seems to me he is ok with that.. almost like it's his decision and not overhardts

It's ALWAYS the players decision to go arb. Agents for the most part hate it really. It means they didn't do their job and they are loathe to admit that.

 

[Jetsfan79]

With the favorable Stanley signing, Jets can probably squeeze another half million savings if they trade Beaulieu and sign another UFA D at 750. Can Michael Stone be an option?

May need to add a Niku to entice teams not have any roster salary coming back.

 

[Ossific]

With the favorable Stanley signing, Jets can probably squeeze another half million savings if they trade Beaulieu and sign another UFA D at 750. Can Michael Stone be an option?

May need to add a Niku to entice teams not have any roster salary coming back.

Isn't Beaulieu hitting LTIR for most likely the entire season?

 

[Jetsfan79]

Isn't Beaulieu hitting LTIR for most likely the entire season?

Last I heard he is ready or close to being ready to play. Obviously if he is an LTIR candidate, Jets will use that to their advantage.

 

[jgimp]

With the favorable Stanley signing, Jets can probably squeeze another half million savings if they trade Beaulieu and sign another UFA D at 750. Can Michael Stone be an option?

May need to add a Niku to entice teams not have any roster salary coming back.

Heinola and Samberg say hi!

 

[DugSmail]

Wouldn't it be nice to still have Rosie in the lineup

 

[TheJadePipe]

Wouldn't it be nice to still have Rosie in the lineup

We got a 3rd for Rosie… didn’t we trade that third for Schmidt?

 

[KingBogo]

Wouldn't it be nice to still have Rosie in the lineup

Not really. His $1.84 M would give us no chance to keep both Copp and Pionk. Much better to have Ves cover off 3rd line RW for half the cost.

 

[puck stoppa]

Not really. His $1.84 M would give us no chance to keep both Copp and Pionk. Much better to have Ves cover off 3rd line RW for half the cost.

And like I said last summer when I had to defend that KVes won’t be a bust, he will continue to surprise some people. He will look great on that line and kid can finish.

 

[KingBogo]

Copp for Debrusk and a pick

Pretty ambitious to want a pick on top. I'd prefer Copp over Debrusk, but Debrusk's contract status are more preferable. Not just you, but many posters over estimate Copp's value IMO. His contract status is going to keep most GMs away. Basically trading for Copp is trading for the rights to sign him as a UFA at top market value, with the undesirable backup position of going to arbitration in the next week or 2 with your newly acquired acquisition, who just so happens to have the biggest prick of an agent in the league. Most GMs have dealt with Overcharge and likely don't want to deal with the headache if they don't have to. Copp just isn't that valuable to them.

 

[Flair Hay]

Not really. His $1.84 M would give us no chance to keep both Copp and Pionk. Much better to have Ves cover off 3rd line RW for half the cost.

Yeah he is the one who wanted to leave. Good riddance to him.

 

[Flair Hay]

Thing I dont get is, if we were going to trade Copp for a 2nd rounder, or a lesser grinder... why not just protect Appleton and leave Copp to Seattle?

To me keeping Copp in the expansion draft means Chevy wants to get a deal done. And if not, he is comfortable losing him and gaining back the cap space.

I really dont think we are trading him.

 

[KingBogo]

Thing I dont get is, if we were going to trade Copp for a 2nd rounder, or a lesser grinder... why not just protect Appleton and leave Copp to Seattle?

To me keeping Copp in the expansion draft means Chevy wants to get a deal done. And if not, he is comfortable losing him and gaining back the cap space.

I really dont think we are trading him.

You also Have to assume Copp was attractive to Seattle. Taking on Copp is basically taking on a UFA you have to sign at his agents asking price otherwise you are off to arbitration with your new acquisition with all the fun associated with that. More I think about it, I really don't think Francis really would have wanted Copp.

 

[Flair Hay]

You also Have to assume Copp was attractive to Seattle. Taking on Copp is basically taking on a UFA you have to sign at his agents asking price otherwise you are off to arbitration with your new acquisition with all the fun associated with that. More I think about it, I really don't think Francis really would have wanted Copp.

That's true. Wither way, I'm not so sure Copp is being traded.

 

[surixon]

I'd do Copp for Debrusk 1 for 1, we can afford Jake's deal and Pionk.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Thing I dont get is, if we were going to trade Copp for a 2nd rounder, or a lesser grinder... why not just protect Appleton and leave Copp to Seattle?

To me keeping Copp in the expansion draft means Chevy wants to get a deal done. And if not, he is comfortable losing him and gaining back the cap space.

I really dont think we are trading him.

Again, the decision to keep Copp and continue negotiations happened before Dillon and Schmidt walked in the door. Those two deals blindsided Chevroletoff, who had all the cap he needed to finish off the Copp negotiations at the time. In hindsight, Chevy would probably have done the exact same thing, because I, too, doubt Seattle would have taken Copp. In the current context and the pre-draft context, I'd still rather keep DeMelo, who we would have lost if Appleton was protected. We would likely be running Niku or some trash vet in DeMelo's place. The trade market put the squeeze on the Copp deal, that's all.

 

[Whileee]

Again, the decision to keep Copp and continue negotiations happened before Dillon and Schmidt walked in the door. Those two deals blindsided Chevroletoff, who had all the cap he needed to finish off the Copp negotiations at the time. In hindsight, Chevy would probably have done the exact same thing, because I, too, doubt Seattle would have taken Copp. In the current context and the pre-draft context, I'd still rather keep DeMelo, who we would have lost if Appleton was protected. We would likely be running Niku or some trash vet in DeMelo's place. The trade market put the squeeze on the Copp deal, that's all.

Agree, and the Jets still have the option to sign Copp for a short deal (1 or 2 years) under the cap if they choose. With Perfetti, Gustafsson, Torgersson in the pipeline a short deal with Copp might not be a bad idea, anyway.

 

[ocdaddy]

Short deal for Copp please. Nobody knows whether last years production will be matched or ever improved on.

Would be great for Lowrie to exceed his personal best of 15 goals with Copp on his wing. Wouldnt rule that out from happening.

 

[10Ducky10]

If he signs a 1 year deal and plays mainly with Lowry, how much would he make the next season as a free agent?
A one-year deal might do more harm than good for him...

 

[Whileee]

If he signs a 1 year deal and plays mainly with Lowry, how much would he make the next season as a free agent?
A one-year deal might do more harm than good for him...

If he goes through arbitration, he's getting a 1-year deal, probably on the lower end. He'd probably prefer a longer deal at a reasonable cap hit, but I'm not sure the Jets will go as high as he wants.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Copp will get paid in UFA regardless. It might not be Danault money, but it's guaranteed to be a lot more than Chevy is offering long-term. He holds the cards here.

 

[ps241]

If he goes through arbitration, he's getting a 1-year deal, probably on the lower end. He'd probably prefer a longer deal at a reasonable cap hit, but I'm not sure the Jets will go as high as he wants.

In which case Copp might be our own rental which would be an option. The cap space will be vital over the next 3 seasons. We did that with Myers, Kuli, and Ben. Not ideal, but not a death blow by any means.

 

[Jets 31]

Pionk is priority #1 , i really hope Chevy signs Pionk first and then turns to Overcharge and says this is what i have left in cap space. I like Copp but he shouldn't be making any more than Lowry , 4 million is pushing the too much money for Copp to me .