Trade Deadline II [Flyers acquire Nate Thompson (Mont.) and Derek Grant (Anah.)]

[Psuhockey]

He gels well in the regular season with the Flames forwards before this season. Then the playoffs start and his size tends to be taken advantage of when the rules seem to change and favor a player like JvR who has had a few good runs the in playoffs instead of going invisible.

People use to say the same thing about Datsyuk. He always use to disappear in the playoffs until he didn’t.

 

[royals119]

Trade Deadline Thread

I'm not sure about the AHL and NHL, but in the ECHL "future considerations" sometimes turn out to be cash, but since players don't like to be traded for cash, they only announce it as future considerations.

Since the Flyers traded a goalie to the Rangers who was assigned to Hartford and the Wolfpack traded a goalie and a forward to Lehigh Valley who were assigned to Reading, I would assume the "future considerations" for each of those trades could be cash, and that cash was possibly then sent from Philly to Lehigh to even it all out. I don't think you can directly trade a Flyers NHL contracted player for two Phantoms AHL contracted players, but that was the net effect.

 

[snoop88]

Lmao if Ghost/JVR and a 1st gets you Johnny Hockey I’ll drive them to airport right now. And rent a limo on my own dime for their comfort on said ride to the airport.

 

[Curufinwe]

Guess I should have waited before ordering this off ebay.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Can we think about this from Calgary side for 2 min and not Flyers side. 1) If Calgary first player I want is TK as the salary coming back not Ghost not JVR not Voracek. Hopefully Fletch gives them a dial tone but you can see Calgary saying no TK no Johnny Hockey. 2) If you somehow convinced Calgary that Ghost or JVR is main salary going back then one of Farabee, Frost, or Myers is in the trade. JVR 1 2 Hagg offers ain't getting it done. 3) If Calgary I want players ready not 2020 1's. So IF from Calgary side and I ain't getting TK. I am asking York, Ghost and Frost for Johnny Hockey MINIMUM. I am NOT saying Flyers should do this. but please stop thinking JVR and 2020 1 is core of Johnny Hockey trade.

 

[Rebels57]

Can we think about this from Calgary side for 2 min and not Flyers side. 1) If Calgary first player I want is TK as the salary coming back not Ghost not JVR not Voracek. Hopefully Fletch gives them a dial tone but you can see Calgary saying no TK no Johnny Hockey. 2) If you somehow convinced Calgary that Ghost or JVR is main salary going back then one of Farabee, Frost, or Myers is in the trade. JVR 1 2 Hagg offers ain't getting it done. 3) If Calgary I want players ready not 2020 1's. So IF from Calgary side and I ain't getting TK. I am asking York, Ghost and Frost for Johnny Hockey MINIMUM. I am NOT saying Flyers should do this. but please stop thinking JVR and 2020 1 is core of Johnny Hockey trade.

This is the correct take.

 

[TB87]

*The idea of trading for this player was dumb to begin with*
*Definitely shouldn’t trade for him now that he’s injured*

 

[Flyotes]

This trade deadline is annoying me more than most. If Patrick and Lindblom were playing, the landscape changes. It's out of our control, I know, but it is supremely obnoxious. We're winning, but I can imagine rolling over teams so much harder if health concerns didn't threaten to kill our forwards, good god.

 

[deadhead]

I'd include Frost in a JG trade, b/c I don't want both of them in the top 6.
No way I trade TK for JG, going forward I think TK has more upside.

JG played with Hayes at Boston College, so they'd be a good pair to reunite, put up amazing numbers together.

The difference between Kane and JG in the playoffs is speed and Toews, Kane simply doesn't play defense so without Toews he'd be a meh player.

 

[Rebels57]

This trade deadline is annoying me more than most. If Patrick and Lindblom were playing, the landscape changes. It's out of our control, I know, but it is supremely obnoxious. We're winning, but I can imagine rolling over teams so much harder if health concerns didn't threaten to kill our forwards, good god.

Imagine if we also replaced Hagg with a peak-Ghost. Sheesh.

 

[baudib1]

Not wanting Frost and JG together is just hilarious.

 

[Here4ThaLids]

Get that stapler away from that maniac! Aaaaahhh!

 

[tucson83]

if they get jg someone with a big contract has to go because he's going to want a big contract.

 

[deadhead]

Not wanting Frost and JG together is just hilarious.

Rather have Hayes and JG together, go look at their season at Boston College, not good, historic.

I'd definitely trade Frost instead of TK. I know TK is going to be a top forward, maybe elite, Frost??? Remains to be seen.

TB tried a midget line, how'd that work in the playoffs?

 

[flyersfan187]

No way TK gets traded. Not a chance.

 

[tucson83]

No way TK gets traded. Not a chance.

tk isnt getting traded, im talking about older contract players jvr, voraeck.

 

[Deadpool8812]

tk isnt getting traded, im talking about older contract players jvr, voraeck.

You think other teams are going to be lining up for players like JVR and Voracek? If you're making an offer for a player like JG, neither of those 2 will get it done

 

[Psuhockey]

Can we think about this from Calgary side for 2 min and not Flyers side. 1) If Calgary first player I want is TK as the salary coming back not Ghost not JVR not Voracek. Hopefully Fletch gives them a dial tone but you can see Calgary saying no TK no Johnny Hockey. 2) If you somehow convinced Calgary that Ghost or JVR is main salary going back then one of Farabee, Frost, or Myers is in the trade. JVR 1 2 Hagg offers ain't getting it done. 3) If Calgary I want players ready not 2020 1's. So IF from Calgary side and I ain't getting TK. I am asking York, Ghost and Frost for Johnny Hockey MINIMUM. I am NOT saying Flyers should do this. but please stop thinking JVR and 2020 1 is core of Johnny Hockey trade.

As always the returns people think are necessary are never what they end up being in real life. If Gaudreau is available and I don’t think he is, the return would be as the majority of all returns are; one “A” asset, one “B” asset and maybe something else. Maybe the “B” asset gets upgraded to an “A” if there is a salary dump. Even if you consider Ghost not an “A” asset anymore, he’s certainly not a salary dump and York and Frost both are “A’s so that proposal is nonsense.

Since both teams are in the playoff picture, any deal would likely be a hockey deal so prospects and picks make no sense.

 

[tucson83]

You think other teams are going to be lining up for players like JVR and Voracek? If you're making an offer for a player like JG, neither of those 2 will get it done

im not saying trade any of them for jg because i know they wont get it done, im saying if we get jg, jvr or voraeck have to be traded so we can pay for jg.

 

[Flyer lurker]

As always the returns people think are necessary are never what they end up being in real life. If Gaudreau is available and I don’t think he is, the return would be as the majority of all returns are; one “A” asset, one “B” asset and maybe something else. Maybe the “B” asset gets upgraded to an “A” if there is a salary dump. Even if you consider Ghost not an “A” asset anymore, he’s certainly not a salary dump and York and Frost both are “A’s so that proposal is nonsense.

Since both teams are in the playoff picture, any deal would likely be a hockey deal so prospects and picks make no sense.

Agreed Johnny hockey would never get traded until offseason. Frost and York are not A's they are potential A's. Big difference. 2020 1st is not an A. Robert Hagg clearly is not an A or B. Ghost and JVR are not A's And I saying what Calgary would want. I am not advocating doing the trade. I am saying what Calgary would ask for. Honest question say we knew Konecky was getting traded (perish the thought). You really think we wouldn't ask for 1 falling star and 2 potential 1's with upside. I SURE WOULD.

 

[Tripod]

Sort of funny to see the Canes likely shopping Gardiner.

 

[Curufinwe]

Bad backs are bad for business.

 

[Curufinwe]

O'Connor: Flyers owe it to team, fans to be intelligently...

Folks, it’s time to drop any remaining qualifiers. This Flyers team is good. They’ve adapted and adhered to the new on-ice demands of general manager Chuck Fletcher and head coach Alain Vigneault. They’ve turned into the kind of a team that even elite-on-paper clubs don’t enjoy facing.

Oh, and they’ve absolutely played well enough to justify investment on the part of the front office before next week’s trade deadline.

Players like Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek spent their best years carrying an otherwise-moribund roster to mediocrity, and their main reward was inane criticism claiming they weren’t good enough as leaders or players. Fans sat through years of a rebuild disguised as a retool and continued to pack the Wells Fargo Center on a nightly basis. It shouldn’t be a surprise that, after last season’s abrupt repudiation of the Hextall mentality that fans largely bought into for years, many this season have taken the “you have to prove to me you’re serious” approach toward the Flyers (as reflected by the empty seats at the Wells Fargo Center).

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I want no part of Carter. We can do better in a hockey trade.

 

[Curufinwe]

I'm sad to find out that Jeff Carter is basically a Canadian Jori Lehtera.