Player Discussion Torey Krug VI

[Mainehockey33]

We won’t miss Krug until the season starts. Do people remember he was our best player during last years playoff run? I get not resigning him to a long term deal but the guy was great for us. Pasta didn’t score much this playoffs should we trade him? How about the crap that Carlo brought. History has thought us that it’s tough to be all world every playoff. It’s just the way it is.

Do you think Krug will be worth $7M in 6 years? He’ll be 35.

 

[LouJersey]

Do you think Krug will be worth $7M in 6 years? He’ll be 35.

I personally don't think he's worth 7 mil now, never mind 6 years from now. He's a goner IMO, the silence is deafening on the Bruins part with him.

 

[Dr Hook]

I personally don't think he's worth 7 mil now, never mind 6 years from now. He's a goner IMO, the silence is deafening on the Bruins part with him.

Great player at what he does, apparently a good locker room guy too, but he is getting just about what he's worth currently as he can't be relied on to play sound defense. If they gave him a small raise and shorter term he would be worth keeping, but 7 mil for 6 years? Adios. Hobbit, Vaya con Dios my friend.

 

[member 96824]

Ya I mean krug wasn’t holding his own 5v5 offensively or defensively. Krug was on the ice for 36 5v5 goals the last 3 playoffs. Most among any other bruins defender in that timespan.

offensively 5v5 he was rather pedestrian as well.



Barrie was being deployed as a 2nd pairing last year. Sign him and give him 3rd line duties against lower quality of competition and protect him and let him take over the PP. he can be signed for much less than krug.

If you can plug in lauzon/vaak/gryz into the 2nd and 3rd LHD spots and get Krejci a respectable Winger. That’s better than having krug.

Right I understand all of that, but I'm just trying to understand fully the "sign Barrie and play him on the 3rd pair" proposal being tossed out there.

So the idea is basically roll a left side that has three pieces who haven't shown they can play top 4(one of which hasn't even made the roster as a regular yet) and add another piece that has shown he definitely cannot and that makes us better?

I dunno, if the B's are going to spend on a defender, I'd rather it be something that can definitely play top 4 minutes. I don't think I would mind the idea of trying out Lauzon-Vaak-Gryz and seeing what happens if our circumstances weren't Krejci and Rask expiring in 10 months(35 and 34 this year) and Bergeron the summer after that. If they were saying "This will probably be a transitional year for us" and dealing Krejci or Rask then sure, absolutely, let's roll with it.

 

[UncleRico]

Right I understand all of that, but I'm just trying to understand fully the "sign Barrie and play him on the 3rd pair" proposal being tossed out there.

So the idea is basically roll a left side that has three pieces who haven't shown they can play top 4(one of which hasn't even made the roster as a regular yet) and add another piece that has shown he definitely cannot and that makes us better?

I dunno, if the B's are going to spend on a defender, I'd rather it be something that can definitely play top 4 minutes. I don't think I would mind the idea of trying out Lauzon-Vaak-Gryz and seeing what happens if our circumstances weren't Krejci and Rask expiring in 10 months(35 and 34 this year) and Bergeron the summer after that. If they were saying "This will probably be a transitional year for us" and dealing Krejci or Rask then sure, absolutely, let's roll with it.

Krug has been on the ice for the most goals against 5v5 over the last three years more than any other bruins defender and he was 3rd in minutes. He is elite on the power play but also mediocre offensively 5v5 especially given the offensive opportunities he’s given. I don’t think losing krug will be a hit 5v5.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Krug has been on the ice for the most goals against 5v5 over the last three years more than any other bruins defender and he was 3rd in minutes. He is elite on the power play but also mediocre offensively 5v5 especially given the offensive opportunities he’s given. I don’t think losing krug will be a hit 5v5.

you realize Barrie is worse than Krug right? As in, worse offense, far worse defensively and even softer. Barrie averages over 80 GA a year, and ~75 ESGA.

Pretty illogical to want to replace Krug with a crappier version of Krug

 

[member 96824]

Krug has been on the ice for the most goals against 5v5 over the last three years more than any other bruins defender and he was 3rd in minutes. He is elite on the power play but also mediocre offensively 5v5 especially given the offensive opportunities he’s given. I don’t think losing krug will be a hit 5v5.

But why does that result in signing Tyson Barrie so he can play third pair minutes and anything above third pair minutes will expose him as a bad player? If you're trying to solve the Krug "problem"*, why are you going out and getting a significantly worse version of Krug?


*B's were the best team 5 on 5 defensively by a landslide last year so I think the 5 on 5 "Krug problem" problem is a little overstated

 

[Greek_physique]

Why is everyone so focused on hits? lol

 

[Greek_physique]

This is the way I see it, sure Krug was a defensive liability most nights, but if you eliminate him from this team...I personally don't see anyone being able to fill in his skates right now.

Gryz brings another dimension to the team, however its still different. Some nights as frustrating as Krug was, he easily was able to make a stretch pass or ignite the team in another way - just carrying the puck out of the defensive zone himself was a blessing, and he was a major factor to our top PP unit.

I really hope we do replace him, even though McAvoy will grow with additional responsibility.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Do you think Krug will be worth $7M in 6 years? He’ll be 35.

No. But if He can give 5 years at that hit and we eat one that might work

 

[chizzler]

Krug lost his shot with that shoulder injury. When he first started to play here, his slap shot was better than it is now. He became a Kaberle. He doesn’t shoot from the point anymore.

 

[duffy]

Krug lost his shot with that shoulder injury. When he first started to play here, his slap shot was better than it is now. He became a Kaberle. He doesn’t shoot from the point anymore.

We actually have 6 defensemen that don't or can't shoot from the point, which is why our scoring from the point is near non existent. This also makes defending against our smaller forwards so easy by teams like Tampa, Washington, and St Louis because they don't worry at all about shots from our D. Add to that we only have 2 D that can make a tape to tape pass and fake shot passes are few and far between. Oh and 1 of our 2 D that can pass is walking out the door. Don't get me wrong I will not miss Krug and his shorthanded give away goals, but just saying, now we have one D who can make good passes and he is small also.

 

[Dr Hook]

We actually have 6 defensemen that don't or can't shoot from the point, which is why our scoring from the point is near non existent. This also makes defending against our smaller forwards so easy by teams like Tampa, Washington, and St Louis because they don't worry at all about shots from our D. Add to that we only have 2 D that can make a tape to tape pass and fake shot passes are few and far between. Oh and 1 of our 2 D that can pass is walking out the door. Don't get me wrong I will not miss Krug and his shorthanded give away goals, but just saying, now we have one D who can make good passes and he is small also.

Charlie is a good passer also. Not as strong as Gryz, but he's got some game there. Overall you are right though, the D needs to be more active with shots and better passing. This where we can hope the younger guys, either Zboril or Vaak can bring some of that it, Clifton can improve there, he's young, and then one of Ahcan or Zech, both have those skills too.

 

[Gee Wally]

Tomorrow’s Globe:

Torey Krug, still unsigned by the Bruins, can walk as an unrestricted free agent Oct. 9. If GM Don Sweeney figures there’s no chance to reach a deal, he can wheel the defenseman’s rights by the night of Oct. 8. It would allow the acquiring club to sign Krug to an eight-year deal rather than only seven years. And the Bruins might land a third-round pick. Not much, but better than losing Krug for nothing. Krug, when our faithful puck chronicler asked him about considering his fit with the Bruins: “You can make all the money in the world and have all the security in the world, but if you’re not comfortable in the situation, if you’re not happy, then every day it’s going to be tough to get up and be excited to show up to work and give it your all. Obviously, I’ve made it well known that I feel very comfortable in Boston — I like my role here, I am comfortable with the coach, and I love my teammates. It’s no secret and it’s a big part of the decision.”

 

[BruinDust]

Tomorrow’s Globe:

Torey Krug, still unsigned by the Bruins, can walk as an unrestricted free agent Oct. 9. If GM Don Sweeney figures there’s no chance to reach a deal, he can wheel the defenseman’s rights by the night of Oct. 8. It would allow the acquiring club to sign Krug to an eight-year deal rather than only seven years. And the Bruins might land a third-round pick. Not much, but better than losing Krug for nothing. Krug, when our faithful puck chronicler asked him about considering his fit with the Bruins: “You can make all the money in the world and have all the security in the world, but if you’re not comfortable in the situation, if you’re not happy, then every day it’s going to be tough to get up and be excited to show up to work and give it your all. Obviously, I’ve made it well known that I feel very comfortable in Boston — I like my role here, I am comfortable with the coach, and I love my teammates. It’s no secret and it’s a big part of the decision.”

I've already moved on.

Good-bye Torey.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Krug has been on the ice for the most goals against 5v5 over the last three years more than any other bruins defender and he was 3rd in minutes. He is elite on the power play but also mediocre offensively 5v5 especially given the offensive opportunities he’s given. I don’t think losing krug will be a hit 5v5.

Is it on Krug the entire team stinks 5v5? Aside from Debrusk and the top line, the Bruins have zero goal scorers.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Is it on Krug the entire team stinks 5v5? Aside from Debrusk and the top line, the Bruins have zero goal scorers.

 

[member 96824]

That’s kind of the point. Love Coyle as a player, it’s a problem that he was the top goal scorer at even strength outside of the Bergeron line.

Names around the league above Coyle: Ryan Donato, Lawson Crouse, Roope Hintz, Zach Sanford, Brett Connolly, Jesper Bratt, Dustin Brown, Nick Bonino.

All fine players but not exactly the guys you want carrying even strength scoring.

 

[DKH]

Krug has been on the ice for the most goals against 5v5 over the last three years more than any other bruins defender and he was 3rd in minutes. He is elite on the power play but also mediocre offensively 5v5 especially given the offensive opportunities he’s given. I don’t think losing krug will be a hit 5v5.

Love Krug

5X5

Grzelcyk- Carlo are high end pair

 

[DKH]

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Love Krug

5X5

Grzelcyk- Carlo are high end pair

If Sweeney got Krug at $5M per that would be
his best signings but I don't see Krug signing for $5M.

 

[HooperDrivesTheBoat]

Ah, I wish him the best of luck wherever he ends up. Sucks he’s leaving without lifting the Cup in black and gold. He was a very good Bruin.

 

[loosemoose]

If this is it, man, what a career he had in Boston. Re-invented Bruins powerplay practically by himself and went to two Stanley Cup finals. My only worry is that the people who though that replacing him on the PP would be easy turn out to be wrong.

 

[member 96824]

The Office, Season 7 Episode 21

Dwight has a great quote for occasions like this

 

[finchster]

We are about to find out if Krug was integral to the powerplay, I think he was.

If the Bruins still have a good powerplay next year, I will be glad to admit I was wrong as I always want the team to do well.

To those that wanted Krug to go and thought his contribution was easily replaceable - if the power play falters next season, I and others get the whole season to complain about the move. No replying, "get over it and move on!"

Krug was a terrific Bruin and I wish him the best.