Proposal: Tor-LA

[4thline]

Considering they moved AJ this summer on an almost identical contract and got back the value of a 2nd round pick im thinking they could move Kerfoot without retaining

Especially on July 1 when his money owed drops to 1.7 per and half the league has just lost a middle 6 forward

 

[Pinto]

Troll will be trolling. Horrible contracr that'd cost the Leafs at minimum a 2nd rd pick to get out of

Your comment is just as bad (if not worse) than his is.

For those commenting on Kerfoot, in this thread and others, it is painfully obvious who has never watched him play.

Overpaid? Yes.

A bad player? Not even close.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Lol ppl think Kerfoot is a cap dump?

 

[KingTech]

I think leafs fans are getting touchy with King fans not wanting Kerfoot The king have a better younger cheaper 3rd line center in Jarret Anderson Dolan who plays great with Moore on the left side. There simply isnt room for him on the Kings. He would not make our top 9 and is to expensive to play on 4th line. No where in there is a comment on his playing ability. Have a nice day

 

[Magic Man]

Especially on July 1 when his money owed drops to 1.7 per and half the league has just lost a middle 6 forward

Then, there is the argument about a lack of good centers available and the fact that he has to escape the expansion draft first with only Travis Dermott as serious competition to be selected over him. They also moved Kapanen and Johnsson last offseason, similar contracts for positive value under the same cap setup. It seems unlikely the Leafs will enter next season with Kerfoot on the team.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Palmieri has also put up a 30 goal pace the past like 6 seasons while Iafallo has yet to break 20 and is only 2 years younger.

The underrating of Palmieri is getting crazy. He has been one of the more consistent goal scorers the past while and hasn't exactly played on a good team either.

Also there is 0% chance a player like Iafallo returns Robertson, he isn't close to good enough especially as a rental

Hello captain dishonesty, Iafallo hasn't even been in the league six years, and if you're okay using pace for Palmieri, certainly you're comfortable accepting that Iafallo is a scoring pace 20g/50p player on an offensively challenged team like the Kings. He's not a raw goal scorer like Palmieri but he produces comfortably like a top-six LW does.

I don't think Iafallo returns Robertson especially as a rental, but ignoring Carter/Kerfoot, Iafallo with retention especially is worth more than a mid prospect and late 2nd.

 

[Lt Dan]

I think Kerfoot is pretty underrated on the trade board because of all the proposals we have put him in but to say he is on a good contract is just wrong IMO.
He is a great depth guy to have he can play up and down a lineup at center or wing but being paid 3.5M under a flat cap when no one has space is just too much.

Then keep him

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

SEA aint picking a cap dump. They'll grab Liljegren or Dermott first

Liljegren is exempt and sandin replaces dermott.

 

[unicornpig]

Kings have no interest in Kerfoot. 2nd and mid prospect is probably fair value for iafallo. But doubt it moves the needle for Blake. He would want one if leafs top prospect

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Hello captain dishonesty, Iafallo hasn't even been in the league six years, and if you're okay using pace for Palmieri, certainly you're comfortable accepting that Iafallo is a scoring pace 20g/50p player on an offensively challenged team like the Kings. He's not a raw goal scorer like Palmieri but he produces comfortably like a top-six LW does.

I don't think Iafallo returns Robertson especially as a rental, but ignoring Carter/Kerfoot, Iafallo with retention especially is worth more than a mid prospect and late 2nd.

Yes I'm conformable saying he is pacing for 20g/50p this year but he has never done that before while Palmieri was a proven ~30 goal pace guy. Nothing really dishonest at all?

Leafs wouldn't value Kerfoot as a cap dump and is producing similarly to Carter (better at ES) so there will be a difference of valuation for sure as LA may view Kerfoot differently.

 

[Mersss]

Yes I'm conformable saying he is pacing for 20g/50p this year but he has never done that before while Palmieri was a proven ~30 goal pace guy. Nothing really dishonest at all?

Leafs wouldn't value Kerfoot as a cap dump and is producing similarly to Carter (better at ES) so there will be a difference of valuation for sure as LA may view Kerfoot differently.

Kerfoot is a cap dump, 3.5M$ for bottom 6er is cap dum territory, especially factoring the term he's got.

 

[Lt Dan]

Yes I'm conformable saying he is pacing for 20g/50p this year but he has never done that before while Palmieri was a proven ~30 goal pace guy. Nothing really dishonest at all?

Leafs wouldn't value Kerfoot as a cap dump and is producing similarly to Carter (better at ES) so there will be a difference of valuation for sure as LA may view Kerfoot differently.

And that is 100% of what matters.
It is about our needs, just like it in the sack

 

[Ziggdiezan]

And that is 100% of what matters.
It is about our needs, just like it in the sack

Yup that is fair. I imagine leafs would try to free up cap in a separate trade

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Kerfoot is a cap dump, 3.5M$ for bottom 6er is cap dum territory, especially factoring the term he's got.

Leafs moved a very similar contract and middle 6er in AJ this summer and got around a 2nd pick in value. Don't think Kerfoot is a cap dump, he is just being included in proposals because he is the only forward who has above 1 million dollar cap hit and isn't a member of the core for the leafs

 

[Sol]

The ability of leafs fans to make consistently terrible proposals is second to none.

 

[YP44]

Not thank you to the original OP. Too much retention for only a 2nd. Kings do not need more picks, they need young players who are about to make it.

 

[YP44]

Kings have no interest in Kerfoot. 2nd and mid prospect is probably fair value for iafallo. But doubt it moves the needle for Blake. He would want one if leafs top prospect

this...I would rather LA retain in order to maximize the return

 

[Spazkat]

Leafs moved a very similar contract and middle 6er in AJ this summer and got around a 2nd pick in value. Don't think Kerfoot is a cap dump, he is just being included in proposals because he is the only forward who has above 1 million dollar cap hit and isn't a member of the core for the leafs

He does not have to be a bad player to be a considered a cap dump. Players that are overpaid (they make more than other players with similar production) and/or are included in a trade because one team needs to shed salary when the receiving team does not have any actual need for that player player are cap dumps.

 

[Kurrilino]

Why are you in every leaf thread spewing bullshit?

Like honestly what do you get out of these obviously outlandish asks/proposals?

Not sure he made outlandish claims.
You guys ask us to retain 50% on all players included and give back a player without retaining any salary.
Why the hell would we do that?

In reality you ask for an allrounder 1st line winger and a 2nd line scoring winger/center.
If we wanna trade, we start with a 1st rounder and go from there. If retaining salary is involved, you open your purse.
It's really not that outlandish

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

he’s not on a good contract. His numbers are inflated being in Toronto. He’s the type of player if he was an RFA teams would not QO.

Toronto likely has to retain on him in a trade

Inflated playing with Spezza, Engvall, and Thornton?

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Not sure he made outlandish claims.
You guys ask us to retain 50% on all players included and give back a player without retaining any salary.
Why the hell would we do that?

In reality you ask for an allrounder 1st line winger and a 2nd line scoring winger/center.
If we wanna trade, we start with a 1st rounder and go from there. If retaining salary is involved, you open your purse.
It's really not that outlandish

A 1st + Robertson/Sandin (i.e. blue chip prospect) for a UFA and a player the leafs don't really want in Carter is outlandish.

In no way is Iafallo or Carter a top 6 player. Both can be considered middle 6 guys and those type of players do not return blue chip prospects especially when one is a UFA rental and the other is 35.

I probably wouldn't move Kerfoot for Carter let alone 1st+Sandin/Robertson for Iafallo

 

[Ziggdiezan]

He does not have to be a bad player to be a considered a cap dump. Players that are overpaid (they make more than other players with similar production) and/or are included in a trade because one team needs to shed salary when the receiving team does not have any actual need for that player player are cap dumps.

That is fine if LA considers Kerfoot a cap dump, the leafs don't though so he wouldn't be involved in a trade with LA if they think he is a cap dump.

 

[indigobuffalo]

Carter probably wouldn’t want to play for Toronto after what they did to Lupul. Plus we know how hard it is to get across the border (Richards).

Joking aside, I wouldn’t give up Kerfoot unless the addition is a major upgrade. Carter is not an upgrade at all on Kerfoot.

 

[kbcb]

Lol ppl think Kerfoot is a cap dump?

Remember the days when kerfoot was better than kadri. Good times

 

[Spargon]

Inflated playing with Spezza, Engvall, and Thornton?

It's the Leafs paradox. All of them are overrated crap but at the same time elevated by elite line mates. But those same elite line mates when isolated will be called overrated.