Trade: [TOR/HOU] Joe Biagini, Aaron Sanchez, and Cal Stevenson for Derek Fisher

[Dr Pepper]

I admittedly dont follow baseball too much but wasnt Sanchez a young arm the Jays should have kept since dealing Stro?

Is smoker not a highly desirable piece teams are looking for?

Sanchez has declined pretty sharply over the last few years, plagued by injuries and inconsistency. I think he's gone something like 17 consecutive starts this year without picking up a single win.

His last start was insane, though, something like 10ks through 5 innings but the Jays still ended up losing.

 

[justafan22]

I could honestly see the Jays moving if management tanks this team for 10 years

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Sanchez is still young and talented enough that he is guy worth taking shot on to turn it around given success he had earlier in career

With pitchers you see it time and again a reclamation project turned around

 

[MurrayBannerman]

So 27 year old Sanchez is toast and 26 year old Fischer has "upside"?

That's either a homer take or a bad take (or both).

His arm blown to pieces. His velo is down two ticks from when he was good adding to all the injury concerns.

Fisher could maybe be a fringe average regular. It's not like he's some crazy good player.

 

[HansonBro]

Sanchez has declined pretty sharply over the last few years, plagued by injuries and inconsistency. I think he's gone something like 17 consecutive starts this year without picking up a single win.

His last start was insane, though, something like 10ks through 5 innings but the Jays still ended up losing.

And smoker? Last game i saw he solo'd for a game tieing hit in the 9th and hit for the game winning rbi in extras.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Houston gets a broken arm they could maybe rehab, a fringey pen piece, and a AAAA profile OF for a guy they couldn't give enough PT to. Fisher needs to work on his fielding, but he's a top tier athlete and has hit all along the way in the minors. The Jays can finally give him consistent at bats at the major league level.

 

[Dr Pepper]

And smoker? Last game i saw he solo'd for a game tieing hit in the 9th and hit for the game winning rbi in extras.

I thought Smoak would move today, guess the Jays want to keep him around as the resident clubhouse vet.

Pretty sure he's the only player left from their playoff years.

EDIT: Ryan Tepera was on that 2016 team as well. But that's it. Massive turnover in just three years.

 

[HansonBro]

I thought Smoak would move today, guess the Jays want to keep him around as the resident clubhouse vet.

Pretty sure he's the only player left from their playoff years.

I would have thought he was the most valuable tradable piece after Stro...

 

[NJDevs26]

LOL and Toronto adds a prospect too...if Houston added a guy like Stevenson instead of Toronto it might have been close to equal.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[Cassano]

The Blue Jays are in for another 25 yr playoff drought.

 

[belair]

Isn't Sanchez also 26? Wouldn't he be the more valuable player to the Jays considering they're currently looking for pitching?

I don't understand baseball trades.

 

[Terry Yake]

hahahahahaha jays FO is an absolute joke

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Isn't Sanchez also 26? Wouldn't he be the more valuable player to the Jays considering they're currently looking for pitching?

I don't understand baseball trades.

It's a lot easier to turn a toosly outfielder into something worthwhile rather than a guy who's been worth a combined -3 WARP over three injury plagued seasons.

If the Jays come out on the back end of this, it'll be something like Cal Stevenson turns out to be a productive backup OF. Even if Houston turns Sanchez into something, I'd have little to no confidence that the Jays would have done the same.

 

[N o o d l e s]

I have never seen a guy with an ERA close to 6 and blister problems be so overrated

 

[robert terwilliger]

Houston gets a broken arm they could maybe rehab, a fringey pen piece, and a AAAA profile OF for a guy they couldn't give enough PT to. Fisher needs to work on his fielding, but he's a top tier athlete and has hit all along the way in the minors. The Jays can finally give him consistent at bats at the major league level.

reason doesn't play in this thread apparently.

people are somehow shocked that fisher hasn't beaten out better players on a loaded team and was the only haul for mister blister who hasn't been good in nearly three years, a 29 year old sixth inning relief pitcher and a player in the low minors who might be derek fisher one day.

they should have gotten the astros to empty their wallets apparently.

 

[oilerbear]

Derek Fisher Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

His performance at ML level has been dreadful and he is about to turn 26

Same can be said of Sánchez last 3 seasons.
51 starts 8 wins,
15 of 51 good starts (4.00 era; 5 ip)
2019 9 of 23 a hint of bounce back,
but 0 in last 10, worse form than 17 & 18 form.
2018 3 of 20
2017 3 of 8
1.64 WHIP
5.32 era

Sanchez is not a good starting pitcher.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Wasn't this another Jays pitcher that Jays fans said was good that just got used as a throw in for a AAA player?

Once again, I have been proven right.

(Eats congratulatory Bon Bon, savors flavors ...licks fingers.... Smiles)

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

I could honestly see the Jays moving if management tanks this team for 10 years

Well, I hate to break it but...

Mark my words, Vlad Jr aint that good, either.

 

[Beerfish]

After seeing these trades I think the jays front office is Chiarelli like. Trading proven major leaguers, even if some of them are a slight disappointment for Grade B and C prospects. None of these guys they have gotten in return sound the least bit promising to me.

Just dreadful.

 

[Marcobruin]

Shapiro is terrible. Sanchez was good few years ago. Big win for Stros.

Boy is Shapiro horrible. He prectically gave these guys away.
None of the players they acquired are top end prospects

 

[Marcobruin]

Power hitting lefty outfielder. The hype has kinda plateaued, but he was once a highly touted prospect.

Expect another McKinney Hernandez type ...the types the Jays love real cheap and gets them nowhere

 

[DougieSmash]

So 27 year old Sanchez is toast and 26 year old Fischer has "upside"?

That's either a homer take or a bad take (or both).

Pretty much like every time

 

[Mathieu]

Sanchez is usually good for 3 or 4 innings and then everything fall off. If Houston plan to use him in their bullpen I suspect he'll be just fine.

That's really an awful trade for the Jays.

 

[Del Preston]

Every scouting report I've seen says Fisher has a below-average arm and shouldn't play CF.

Atkins was on TSN saying the Jays are excited for Fisher's arm and defense, and they feel great about playing him in CF.