Proposal: Tor - Buffalo

[Paladin2799]

I like to keep my proposals reasonably simple and straight to the point.

Toronto:

William Nylander
1st 2018
possibly another minor piece

Buffalo:

O'Reilly, Ryan

Discuss.

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[Djp]

Groundhogs day....

Start with you Morgan Rielly....

 

[Toast97]

We would never get good value trading Nylander, Marner, or Matthews.

If you’re willing to trade Nylander, you should be willing to trade Marner

 

[Paladin2799]

Groundhogs day....

Start with you Morgan Rielly....

Toronto does this trade to stay competative. Trading Rielly takes a team weakness and makes it crippling.

This is still a very good piece going to Buffalo, maybe not defense but Nylander is still an amazing player and a bluechip piece.

 

[truthbluth]

Toronto does this trade to stay competative. Trading Rielly takes a team weakness and makes it crippling.

This is still a very good piece going to Buffalo, maybe not defense but Nylander is still an amazing player and a bluechip piece.

So keep him. Buffalo has the same holes as Toronto. I'm afraid there's no trade to be made.

 

[Paladin2799]

So keep him. Buffalo has the same holes as Toronto. I'm afraid there's no trade to be made.

Buffalo also bottomed out and is drafting first overall.

A lower first, a tasty extra piece, and a legit first line nhl player that you can lock up for 8 years? (I think 8).

Its a downgrade now, but its a huge upgrade long term which is what you guys need right now.

 

[MR4]

NO

Too much Tim Hortons around the ACC for O'Rielly

 

[SnizzNasty88]

Is this guy serious?! Wouldn’t even move Nylander alone for O’Reilly let alone a 1st and another add. Ludicrous.

 

[GongShowWilly]

nope , pass

 

[Randy Randerson]

hard pass on Nylander straight up for O'Rielly. ROR's a very good player, center isn't a position of need for the Leafs...especially with the really good chance that Nylander is a capable center being that he's played very well there in a not insignificant amount of time, and Nylander is younger, cheaper and has the benefit of being as offensively productive of a player as ROR going into his 22yo season. Leafs wait and see what they have rather than steering into the cap trouble iceberg while shortening their compete window by acquiring ROR

Toronto does this trade to stay competative. Trading Rielly takes a team weakness and makes it crippling.

This is still a very good piece going to Buffalo, maybe not defense but Nylander is still an amazing player and a bluechip piece.

"to stay competitive" seems like a weird motive for a team that's 2 years removed from finishing last, having made the playoffs in both the following years and finishing in the top half of the conference this year with a team built around a core of guys who are under 25

 

[Morgs]

Lol no to trading Nylander... again.

 

[Amadeus]

I like to keep my proposals reasonably simple and straight to the point.

Toronto:

William Nylander
1st 2018
possibly another minor piece

Buffalo:

O'Reilly, Ryan

Discuss.

No thanks!

 

[Hockeyholic]

Don't think it's a good idea for Toronto. Way too many Tim Hortons stores in the area.

 

[stokes84]

Yes from this Sabres fan.

 

[Paladin2799]

My thoughts overall were that Toronto could load up on their top6 with a veteran #1 centerman behind a generational player in matthews.

Toronto hopes that Nylander will become a Centerman and this skips the transitional period. Toronto pays a bit more then what Nylander is expected to get (6.5m~) and the player is still young, in his prime, and above all proven. A 1-2-3 of AM-ROR-Kadri is deeep.

For Buffalo, with the current situation being poor and catching some high draft picks this is a great chance to recoup some quality picks/prospects while getting a quality bluechip nhl proven player in exchange. This is not a 4 quarters for a dollar deal. Great chance to get a choice pair of prospects and a quality top6 player.

 

[Menzinger]

No.

The Leafs have zero incentive to trade Nylander for an older more expensive forward let alone add other assets to it.

 

[Halla]

wait Nylander, 1st, + for 7.5 mil for a 2C that has put up the exact same amount of pts as kadri the last 2 years?

no

 

[Brock Radunske]

I like to keep my proposals reasonably simple and straight to the point.

Toronto:

William Nylander
1st 2018
possibly another minor piece

Buffalo:

O'Reilly, Ryan

Discuss.

I can only assume you're joking.
Mission accomplished because I laughed!

 

[Brock Radunske]

My thoughts overall were that Toronto could load up on their top6 with a veteran #1 centerman behind a generational player in matthews.

Toronto hopes that Nylander will become a Centerman and this skips the transitional period. Toronto pays a bit more then what Nylander is expected to get (6.5m~) and the player is still young, in his prime, and above all proven. A 1-2-3 of AM-ROR-Kadri is deeep.

For Buffalo, with the current situation being poor and catching some high draft picks this is a great chance to recoup some quality picks/prospects while getting a quality bluechip nhl proven player in exchange. This is not a 4 quarters for a dollar deal. Great chance to get a choice pair of prospects and a quality top6 player.

No.

 

[Aladyyn]

wait Nylander, 1st, + for 7.5 mil for a 2C that has put up the exact same amount of pts as kadri the last 2 years?

no

Ryan O'Reilly is a top 20 forward in the league.

 

[hotpaws]

counter offer

Buff 1st - 2018

for

Nylander
Gardiner
Hyman

 

[Buddlee]

We would never get good value trading Nylander, Marner, or Matthews.

If you’re willing to trade Nylander, you should be willing to trade Marner

We would never get good value trading Nylander, Marner, or Matthews.

If you’re willing to trade Nylander, you should be willing to trade Marner

We would never get good value trading Nylander, Marner, or Matthews.

If you’re willing to trade Nylander, you should be willing to trade Marner

It’s truly remarkable that Peter Chiarelli has been employed as a GM for as long as he has been
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[Brock Radunske]

Ryan O'Reilly is a top 20 forward in the league.

Where to start...?

1. No one cares about unquantifiedable ranks. They mean nothing.

2. But since youre claiming he is....according to the first list Google provides, he is in fact not a top 20 center #NHLTopPlayers: Top 20 Centers

3. The premise is horrible for Toronto in terms of value AND need and they'd have to stifle their laughter to respond to GMJE's call with a polite 'No, thanks'

 

[Howie Hodge]

counter offer

Buff 1st - 2018

for

Nylander
Gardiner
Hyman

I see what you did there......

 

[Aladyyn]

Where to start...?

1. No one cares about unquantifiedable ranks. They mean nothing.

2. But since youre claiming he is....according to the first list Google provides, he is in fact not a top 20 center #NHLTopPlayers: Top 20 Centers

3. The premise is horrible for Toronto in terms of value AND need and they'd have to stifle their laughter to respond to GMJE's call with a polite 'No, thanks'

I don't care about lists made by "experts." Every time someone makes a statistical model to determine a player's value, ROR is right up there. GAR models have him around 15, Berkshire had him 8th among centers before this season on his list. Those are not some subjective ranks like what you linked.

And if the premise is horrible for Toronto... it's worse for Buffalo still.