Player Discussion Tony DeAngelo: Part V

[patnyrnyg]

So it's not him but you're still holding it against him because it could have been him?

What am I holding against him? I said I CAN see him doing something like this.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

What am I holding against him? I said I CAN see him doing something like this.

If he didn't, why is that relevant?

 

[patnyrnyg]

If he didn't, why is that relevant?

It is a discussion. Have you seen how he has acted on social media? When you act like he has, you are not going to get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[patnyrnyg]

Because there is no proof it is him. Some dude saying he "traced the IP to Pittsburgh" is not proof.

Yes, but this nor twitter is a court of law.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

I mean he's offered to fight people in front of MSG before he left Twitter, so I doubt a swing in his political views would alleviate the problems.

idk, if he was starting fights in the name of stalin it'd be pretty based IMO

 

[Fitzy]

If he didn't, why is that relevant?

I'd argue it's relevant (If we assume he didn't) because such a large proportion of people would believe it is probably indicative of the kind of damage he's done to his reputation on social media previously.

It's still negative attention on the franchise, and that counts for something. I get that it's not completely fair, if that's the case, but let's not pretend that ADA doesn't have some level of accountability for hosting a social media presence for so long as to make this believable.

Again, no one is accusing the other noted NYR players with non media darling views of this kind of behavior. Literally no one thinks it's Brendan Lemiuex

 

[Fitzy]

idk, if he was starting fights in the name of stalin it'd be pretty based IMO

It would be slightly less relevant and topical but still asinine and lacking in human empathy.

We need to bring back pillory.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

It would be slightly less relevant and topical but still asinine and lacking in human empathy.

We need to bring back pillory.

tony d should get sentenced to several weeks of the pillory imo

also they should 100% bring back duels.

 

[mas0764]

Yes, but this nor twitter is a court of law.

It’s pretty weak evidence even for a message board debate.

 

[mas0764]

I mean he's offered to fight people in front of MSG before he left Twitter, so I doubt a swing in his political views would alleviate the problems.

It wouldn’t alleviate all the problems but his politics definitely alter the narrative.

 

[Trxjw]

It wouldn’t alleviate all the problems but his politics definitely alter the narrative.

An immature, thin-skinned jerk is the same on either side of the fence. People include the politics to paint him poorly or to make him look like he's persecuted. If he was a bleeding-heart liberal it'd be the same thing just with the roles reversed.

 

[Rempe73]

People think my Twitter account is his burner all the time haha (@DeAngeloFan). This whole situation just makes me laugh. I really hope that’s not him though.

 

[Rempe73]

An immature, thin-skinned jerk is the same on either side of the fence. People include the politics to paint him poorly or to make him look like he's persecuted. If he was a bleeding-heart liberal it'd be the same thing just with the roles reversed.

Disagree strongly

 

[SnowblindNYR]

An immature, thin-skinned jerk is the same on either side of the fence. People include the politics to paint him poorly or to make him look like he's persecuted. If he was a bleeding-heart liberal it'd be the same thing just with the roles reversed.

I'm not sure you've been awake the last 4 years. There's definitely one side that is more acceptable to be in cities that have the resources to host hockey teams. I'm not making an argument about whether that's justified but the idea that if he were posting "bleeding heart liberal" tweets he'd get the same blowback in major metropolises in the US and Canada is fantasy.

 

[Trxjw]

Disagree strongly

As is your right to do so.

 

[TheBPA]

I'm not sure you've been awake the last 4 years. There's definitely one side that is more acceptable to be in cities that have the resources to host hockey teams. I'm not making an argument about whether that's justified but the idea that if he were posting "bleeding heart liberal" tweets he'd get the same blowback in major metropolises in the US and Canada is fantasy.

yeah that population doesn’t make up hockey Twitter or hockey fans. It’s much closer to 50/50 than you are portraying it to be.

 

[patnyrnyg]

I'm not sure you've been awake the last 4 years. There's definitely one side that is more acceptable to be in cities that have the resources to host hockey teams. I'm not making an argument about whether that's justified but the idea that if he were posting "bleeding heart liberal" tweets he'd get the same blowback in major metropolises in the US and Canada is fantasy.

Yes, he would as I would argue the majority of fans lean conservative. It would just be the other side saying, "Stick to hockey, nobody cares about your opinion on politics." The difference is 99% of the players, regardless of political affiliation realize going back and forth with people on twitter is not going to lead to anywhere good. They simply post what they have to say, and don't get worked up about the comments. At least if they do, they do not respond to it.

 

[mas0764]

An immature, thin-skinned jerk is the same on either side of the fence. People include the politics to paint him poorly or to make him look like he's persecuted. If he was a bleeding-heart liberal it'd be the same thing just with the roles reversed.

Yes thin skinned jerks are the same on both sides but I do not agree that the reaction to him in the twitterverse would be the same if he were liberal and outspoken.

 

[mas0764]

I'm not sure you've been awake the last 4 years. There's definitely one side that is more acceptable to be in cities that have the resources to host hockey teams. I'm not making an argument about whether that's justified but the idea that if he were posting "bleeding heart liberal" tweets he'd get the same blowback in major metropolises in the US and Canada is fantasy.

Fantasy is a good description.

 

[OverTheCap]

I find it hard to believe that a large portion of the Rangers fanbase would be so accepting if DeAngelo was an outspoken Bernie Bro.

Like Trxjw said, it's more about his inflammatory behavior on social media. There are plenty of hockey players who share the same views as Deangelo and aren't challenging fans to fights or throwing tantrums on Twitter.

 

[Trxjw]

I'm not sure you've been awake the last 4 years. There's definitely one side that is more acceptable to be in cities that have the resources to host hockey teams. I'm not making an argument about whether that's justified but the idea that if he were posting "bleeding heart liberal" tweets he'd get the same blowback in major metropolises in the US and Canada is fantasy.

I wish I'd been asleep for the last 4 years. Players of other sports receive death threats in those same cities you're talking about when they take a knee during the national anthem. Hockey is hardly some left-leaning strong hold either.

Hate to break it to ya, but if Henrik Lundqvist was offering to fight people in front of MSG last year I'd think he was a tool as well. Tony is just a jerk, plain and simple. People are just rushing to his defense and trying to make him look like a victim of the mob or cancel culture. In reality he's a victim of his own stupidity and arrogance.

 

[Fitzy]

I wish I'd been asleep for the last 4 years. Players of other sports receive death threats in those same cities you're talking about when they take a knee during the national anthem. Hockey is hardly some left-leaning strong hold either.

Hate to break it to ya, but if Henrik Lundqvist was offering to fight people in front of MSG last year I'd think he was a tool as well. Tony is just a jerk, plain and simple. People are just rushing to his defense and trying to make him look like a victim of the mob or cancel culture. In reality he's a victim of his own stupidity and arrogance.

There's also a solid literature in psychology addressing how antagonistic personality types will sometimes just use politics (regardless of where they stand on it) as an excuse to get into heated arguments and put others down. People who like to ruffle feathers picking a topic of interest that has a tendency to do so.

Sports, it may surprise no one, is another one of said outlets for aggression.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

People think my Twitter account is his burner all the time haha (@DeAngeloFan). This whole situation just makes me laugh. I really hope that’s not him though.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I wish I'd been asleep for the last 4 years. Players of other sports receive death threats in those same cities you're talking about when they take a knee during the national anthem. Hockey is hardly some left-leaning strong hold either.

Hate to break it to ya, but if Henrik Lundqvist was offering to fight people in front of MSG last year I'd think he was a tool as well. Tony is just a jerk, plain and simple. People are just rushing to his defense and trying to make him look like a victim of the mob or cancel culture. In reality he's a victim of his own stupidity and arrogance.

Eh, that's a big one but probably the one example of outrage of the other side. And posting unpopular opinions on twitter is not the same as taking a knee. One is a very public and controversial protest (that I agree with, btw) and one is posting unpopular shit. It's not surprising you'd get some feather ruffled over the protest.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I find it hard to believe that a large portion of the Rangers fanbase would be so accepting if DeAngelo was an outspoken Bernie Bro.

Like Trxjw said, it's more about his inflammatory behavior on social media. There are plenty of hockey players who share the same views as Deangelo and aren't challenging fans to fights or throwing tantrums on Twitter.

The second bolded sentence is fair. The first bolded sentence I disagree with, if he were all "millionaihs and billionaihs" on twitter some people would be annoyed but it wouldn't receive nearly the blowback.