joe89
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- Apr 30, 2009
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I don't feel very comfortable throwing Mrazek in a NHL game yet, but I'll be very excited if he does. Tatar should play 3rd line for the rest of the season. And Nyquist should be a call up only for top 6 injuries.
I don't feel very comfortable throwing Mrazek in a NHL game yet, but I'll be very excited if he does. Tatar should play 3rd line for the rest of the season. And Nyquist should be a call up only for top 6 injuries.
Since there are no new injuries or recoveries please tell me they are going to sit Cleary in favor of Tatar.
What's the logic about that last part? I'd label Nyquist as the better defensive player of the two if that's what you're implying. Calling Tatar up is just the best way to keep everyone happy, Nyquist already got a game.
What's the logic about that last part? I'd label Nyquist as the better defensive player of the two if that's what you're implying. Calling Tatar up is just the best way to keep everyone happy, Nyquist already got a game.
What's the logic about that last part? I'd label Nyquist as the better defensive player of the two if that's what you're implying. Calling Tatar up is just the best way to keep everyone happy, Nyquist already got a game.
Tatar can play a grinding type role, that's what our 3rd line will be with Helm or even Abdelkader centering it. Nyquist is a finesse player who can't play a grinding roll. He is way to weak right now. Nyquist will not succeed in the NHL as a bottom 6 player unless he adds weight, strength and grit, otherwise his best bet is top 6. You need to play your players in roles that compliment their play type. You wouldn't put Datsyuk out on the 4th line to be a grinder/energy player.
First off all, Nyquist has improved tremendously in those areas. He's a 5'11 185lbs player, bigger than Tatar on both accounts. Second of all, you have to start somewhere. Long-term Nyquist will not be a player for the 4th line but it's not out of the question he's gonna start there. Heck, he's already been there.
I don't see the Wings current setup like black(top6) and white(bottom6). Our bottom 6 is currently filled with Abdelkader, Tootoo and four guys who need to score to really contribute as expected. Right now, playing Tatar with Abdelkader and Cleary seems like a good idea. Tatar can bring a spark to them and they can hopefully score a few goals. Not to mention Tomas has deserved a game for two years.
With Helm and Samuelsson back, our 3rd line will start to look more like something capable of scoring. Helm brings energy, Samuelsson is a shooter. I think a guy with two-way ability and playmaking in Nyquist would fit well on a line like that. If Sammy finds his way into the top6 and the 3rd line is Helm and Cleary, then I'd rather want Tatar there.
First off all, Nyquist has improved tremendously in those areas. He's a 5'11 185lbs player, bigger than Tatar on both accounts. Without downtalking Tatar's abilities. Second of all, you have to start somewhere. Long-term Nyquist will not be a player for the 4th line but it's not out of the question he's gonna start there. Heck, he's already been there.
I don't see the Wings current setup like black(top6) and white(bottom6). Our bottom 6 is currently filled with Abdelkader, Tootoo and four guys who need to score to really contribute as expected. Right now, playing Tatar with Abdelkader and Cleary seems like a good idea. Tatar can bring a spark to them and they can hopefully score a few goals. Not to mention Tomas has deserved a game for two years.
With Helm and Samuelsson back, our 3rd line will start to look more like something capable of scoring. Helm brings energy, Samuelsson is a shooter. I think a guy with two-way ability and playmaking in Nyquist would fit well on a line like that. If Sammy finds his way into the top6 and the 3rd line is Helm and Cleary, then I'd rather want Tatar there.
First off all, Nyquist has improved tremendously in those areas. He's a 5'11 185lbs player, bigger than Tatar on both accounts. Without downtalking Tatar's abilities. Second of all, you have to start somewhere. Long-term Nyquist will not be a player for the 4th line but it's not out of the question he's gonna start there. Heck, he's already been there.
I don't see the Wings current setup like black(top6) and white(bottom6). Our bottom 6 is currently filled with Abdelkader, Tootoo and four guys who need to score to really contribute as expected. Right now, playing Tatar with Abdelkader and Cleary seems like a good idea. Tatar can bring a spark to them and they can hopefully score a few goals. Not to mention Tomas has deserved a game for two years.
With Helm and Samuelsson back, our 3rd line will start to look more like something capable of scoring. Helm brings energy, Samuelsson is a shooter. I think a guy with two-way ability and playmaking in Nyquist would fit well on a line like that. If Sammy finds his way into the top6 and the 3rd line is Helm and Cleary, then I'd rather want Tatar there.
Nyquist still isn't strong though. He still gets bumped off the puck pretty easily. It'll take a couple years before he can do what Datsyuk and Zetterberg do on the boards. Plus you have to take into account what type of players he'll be playing against on the 3rd line, mostly grinders who hit, I just feel Nyquist isn't suited for that roll.
Also weight and strength are two different things. Nyquist may be 185 (i doubt it though) but his lower body strength is still weak, although improve, not ready to be effective when played physical against.
Nyquist still isn't strong though. He still gets bumped off the puck pretty easily. It'll take a couple years before he can do what Datsyuk and Zetterberg do on the boards. Plus you have to take into account what type of players he'll be playing against on the 3rd line, mostly grinders who hit, I just feel Nyquist isn't suited for that roll.
Also weight and strength are two different things. Nyquist may be 185 (i doubt it though) but his lower body strength is still weak, although improve, not ready to be effective when played physical against.
I really hope Mrazek gets a start. Howard can't play every game, and while I haven't seen Mrazek play in the AHL, I've seen enough of him to know he's an extremely skilled goalie. I think he'd handle it just fine.
And you know what? It took Datsyuk and Zetterberg years to do that too. And they didn't start out as top6 players either.
I don't know what to say other than Nyquist is NHL ready, whether he gets to start on a bottom line or a scoring line. Likewise with Tatar, of course.
Wings have Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday games. I'd start Mrazek on Saturday against the Oilers, let Howard take on the reigning cup champs on National TV on Sunday. Playing Howard for all these games would be playing with faith.
I really hope Mrazek gets a start. Howard can't play every game, and while I haven't seen Mrazek play in the AHL, I've seen enough of him to know he's an extremely skilled goalie. I think he'd handle it just fine.