News Article: Tomas Plekanec wants back in....

[DramaticGloveSave]

And you propose doing this by signing a 35-36yr old veteran when you have young players capable of doing the exact same job?

explain that one to me?

I already have. You clearly just want to see new faces in the lineup so badly that you are incapable of thinking about this rationally, so let's move on...

 

[417]

I already have. You clearly just want to see new faces in the lineup so badly that you are incapable of thinking about this rationally, so let's move on...

I don't want new faces...I want the players we already have to get their opportunities to learn and grow.

Again, you make no sense...or perhaps, i'm missing something and i'm asking you to help me understand.

In one post you say "the best course of action is to continue the youth movement"

but in another post, you're suggesting they re-sign Tomas Plekanec, which essentially takes away opportunities from the youth you're suggesting should be part of the youth movement.

It doens't make sense...you can't on one hand say the team needs to go young, and then suggest they need to re-sign Plekanec.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I don't want new faces...I want the players we already have to get their opportunities to learn and grow.

Again, you make no sense...or perhaps, i'm missing something and i'm asking you to help me understand.

In one post you say "the best course of action is to continue the youth movement"

but in another post, you're suggesting they re-sign Tomas Plekanec, which essentially takes away opportunities from the youth you're suggesting should be part of the youth movement.

It doens't make sense...you can't on one hand say the team needs to go young, and then suggest they need to re-sign Plekanec.

It is my belief that you need to insulate a youth movement with vets or you end up perpetually terrible as you ruin your young players. Having a vet on a one year deal who can be flipped for assets at the deadline is perfection. If you can't understand that, that is on your comprehension skills and not my explaining skills...

 

[MaxDummy]

.in the Habs history books he will be Number 10 all time , removing Saku from the top 10...

Hey! Another good reason NOT to resign him.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I don't want new faces...I want the players we already have to get their opportunities to learn and grow.

Again, you make no sense...or perhaps, i'm missing something and i'm asking you to help me understand.

In one post you say "the best course of action is to continue the youth movement"

but in another post, you're suggesting they re-sign Tomas Plekanec, which essentially takes away opportunities from the youth you're suggesting should be part of the youth movement.

It doens't make sense...you can't on one hand say the team needs to go young, and then suggest they need to re-sign Plekanec.

If the people that we have can't play better than Plekanec/Danault/Froese, they don't deserve the opportunity. We're talking about an insanely low bar here.

 

[417]

It is my belief that you need to insulate a youth movement with vets or you end up perpetually terrible as you ruin your young players.

Agreed - kinda like the way the Leafs signed Patrick Marleau, right?

100% agreed...

Only issue is Patrick Marleau can still contribute and help that transition...

Having a vet on a one year deal who can be flipped for assets at the deadline is perfection.

Fair point - I guess the question is, is whatever asset the Habs could get at the deadline, worth more than what development a guy like DLR or Evans could get from more icetime?

If you can't understand that, that is on your comprehension skills and not my explaining skills...

I asked you to elaborate, you did, although we don't agree...I appreciated your response, that's what this place is for.

 

[HomeAndHome]

You still need vets to play the tough minutes, or you're going to ruin your young players.

On top of playing the tough minutes we need a vet/someone with experience up front helping the younger players transition to the pros. If we don't have Plekanec our oldest forwards are Pacioretty/Byron, I don't see a problem bringing Plekanec back this year, he's shown to be a good pro off the ice, too bad his offensive game has gone to zero on the ice.

I'm O.K. with bringing him back if we sign him cheap and very short term.

 

[Habaneros]

Hey! Another good reason NOT to resign him.

seems pretty petty eh? to not resign him so he doesn't pass Saku?...lol

Anyone see Saku hanging around the Habs since he left town(pushed out)??...

Some reason i think why we haven't seen him .....

 

[Habs Halifax]

Just keep him off the top 6 and sign him to a 1 year deal for cheap and I'll be fine with it

I'm fine with signing Pleky for another 1 or 2 years but it must be a team friendly deal. Eller signed for $3.5M and he is younger. The contract doesn't come till the end of the summer when we explore several options first though.

Pleky for 1 year at what? $2.5M? Would you give him $3M?

Tavares, Danault, Pleky, DLR or Drouin/Galchenyuk, Danault, Pleky, DLR. Either way, he pushes DLR to 4th line? That's a shame because DLR made some progress with more oppertunity once Pleky was traded.

The more I think about it, the better we move on from him. We need to focus on youth and another tank year. Tavares is a dream that is likely dead come July 2nd (still hopeful but realistic). It's scary to think that we will retool and try to be a middle of the pack team.

 

[417]

If the people that we have can't play better than Plekanec/Danault/Froese, they don't deserve the opportunity. We're talking about an insanely low bar here.

I wouldn't include him in this group...

But agreed with Plekanec/Froese

 

[Habs Halifax]

On top of playing the tough minutes we need a vet/someone with experience up front helping the younger players transition to the pros. If we don't have Plekanec our oldest forwards are Pacioretty/Byron, I don't see a problem bringing Plekanec back this year, he's shown to be a good pro off the ice, too bad his offensive game has gone to zero on the ice.

I'm O.K. with bringing him back if we sign him cheap and very short term.

Pleky had more points and goals than Mathews in the playoffs on the same team with no PP time

Individual skills vs accomplishments playing on a better team (and coach). Pleky has no shot but he proved he still has the two way responsible center game. The Leafs had him in the opening line-up to start the face-off!

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Most underrated HAB in recent times...

Regular season...

Saku Koivu had 641 pts in Habs jersey
Tomas Plekanec has 605 pts so far....and Pleky plays a shutdown role to boot.....

37 more points and Plek is in the top 10 all time for Habs scoring in reg season..... respect the man

Im not arguing how good he was 5 seasons ago. He was one of my favorite players, but reality is he has fallen off a cliff and I'd rather have some younger, faster, cheaper, more physical players in our bottom 6.

 

[MaxDummy]

seems pretty petty eh? to not resign him so he doesn't pass Saku?...lol

Anyone see Saku hanging around the Habs since he left town(pushed out)??...

Some reason i think why we haven't seen him .....

He's just not needed anymore... Anyways, 36 points away from Saku is what 2 more seasons for Plekanec? no thanks

 

[Habaneros]

Im not arguing how good he was 5 seasons ago. He was one of my favorite players, but reality is he has fallen off a cliff and I'd rather have some younger, faster, cheaper, more physical players in our bottom 6.

4 pts in 7 games in Playoffs for Leafs...

I'm betting ya see a bounce this year for Plek......40-45 pts...

 

[417]

4 pts in 7 games in Playoffs for Leafs...

I'm betting ya see a bounce this year for Plek......40-45 pts...

I've taken this bet the last 2yrs and won...

i'm in again, but this time I wanna get paid

If Tomas Plekanec can get 45pts as a 4th line center next year...I can't wait to see what our #1, #2 and #3 centers will get!

 

[Shabs]

I respect what the man may have done in the distant past, but going foward?

 

[sandviper]

Not debating the quality, but this is our depth at center:
Drouin (5 years left)
Danault (RFA,, but we know he’s back)
DLR (RFA, but likely back)
Froese (1 year left on deal)

This doesn’t include Shaw who can play center, and apparently Byron and Hudon

Then we got some players in the farm (like McCarron) though I’m not stoked about them. We got prospects though, but they (Evans, Poehling) won’t be here next year.

So basically, I see no room for Plekanec. I mean, I think Drouin should be a winger, but I wouldn’t want Plekanec in my top-6, let alone top-9 now. Froese makes less than $800k and is a serviceable 4th liner. I’m not paying Plekanec $2m to run that line.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Im not arguing how good he was 5 seasons ago. He was one of my favorite players, but reality is he has fallen off a cliff and I'd rather have some younger, faster, cheaper, more physical players in our bottom 6.

On our team and the direction we need to head towards... I totally agree. I still think Pleky has value and the Babcock showed how he can be on a deeper roster. Pleky should go to the Jets if they lose Stastny but he likes Montreal and his family is comfortable. I feel for him but it's time to explore other options! Most Habs fans will always respect what you did for us!

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not debating the quality, but this is our depth at center:
Drouin (5 years left)
Danault (RFA,, but we know he’s back)
DLR (RFA, but likely back)
Froese (1 year left on deal)

This doesn’t include Shaw who can play center, and apparently Byron and Hudon

Then we got some players in the farm (like McCarron) though I’m not stoked about them. We got prospects though, but they (Evans, Poehling) won’t be here next year.

So basically, I see no room for Plekanec. I mean, I think Drouin should be a winger, but I wouldn’t want Plekanec in my top-6, let alone top-9 now. Froese makes less than $800k and is a serviceable 4th liner. I’m not paying Plekanec $2m to run that line.

Pleky as our #1C: Perfect tank year! lol

 

[Ozmodiar]

I respect what the man may have done in the distant past, but going foward?

I hope this guy replaces Dudley in the hockey ops dept. He would have been useful when the PK and Sergachev trades were going down.

 

[Habaneros]

I've taken this bet the last 2yrs and won...

i'm in again, but this time I wanna get paid

If Tomas Plekanec can get 45pts as a 4th line center next year...I can't wait to see what our #1, #2 and #3 centers will get!

his stint in TO, watch this year in Montreal....He got something to prove...40-45 more than capable .....even at 36......Habs ramp up towards a more offense type of game,ya gotta think they will...Claude already said he will listen to Ducharme etc..so new blood newer ideas...AFTER getting shutout so many times and scoring 1 goal, there is no way something doesn't change in 2018-19

 

[Darz]

If it's a 1 year deal and under $3M a year, I would totally want Plekanec back for another year.

Getting to the point where Plek's is actually underrated on these boards.

 

[Habs Halifax]

4 pts in 7 games in Playoffs for Leafs...

I'm betting ya see a bounce this year for Plek......40-45 pts...

Other than on our team, what team has him in the top 2 center spot? I think 30-40pts with 5-10 goals is his ceiling now but that's on a stacked roster. It's the shutdown game and penalty kill is where he is still valuable

 

[417]

his stint in TO, watch this year in Montreal....He got something to prove...40-45 more than capable .....even at 36......Habs ramp up toward more offense type of game,ya gotta think they will...Claude already said he will listen to Ducharme etc..

what does he have to prove exactly?

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I like Pleks, always did but it's time to move on!!
We have our 3rd line center In Danault. GM just needs to figure out to get us quality centers now!