Tom Wilson with a pretty aggressive high stick (suspended 6 games)

[Henry Miller]

2 minute high sticking penalty

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Then why not post the entire sequence so people can have some context?

It was a stupid and dangerous play for sure but you can see from Wilsons reaction he knew he f***ed up as soon as it happened. He hugged the guy and started apologizing. But from 1.5 seconds that you posted it sure seems like it could have been intentional.

Many people here do not need much to jump on Wilson hate like cats in heat. When something like this is posted its just inflammatory. Tells the whole story is all i'm saying.

I hate Wilson as much as the average hockey fan, but this is the right take.

He was obviously in an uncharacteristic "wtf did I just do, sorry dude" moment. I'll give Wilson the benefit of the doubt this time.

6 games is a wildly excessive punishment, based purely on reputation. Once more, DoPS is all over the map.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Does DoPS factor the weight of games into their decision?

They explicitly denied doing this when they upheld Rasmus Andersson’s suspension

 

[BB79]

maybe he likes his reputation

You know what they say, a tiger can't change its stripes.

 

[Il Stugotz]

6 games is a wildly excessive punishment, based purely on reputation. Once more, DoPS is all over the map.

they all agreed to do it this way

 

[BB79]

I hate Wilson as much as the average hockey fan, but this is the right take.

He was obviously in an uncharacteristic "wtf did I just do, sorry dude" moment. I'll give Wilson the benefit of the doubt this time.

6 games is a wildly excessive punishment, based purely on reputation. Once more, DoPS is all over the map.

Really? I thought it was slightly lenient. I was thinking 8-10. If the NHL was serious about avoiding another Bertuzzi-Moore/McSorley-Brashear incident they'd come down harder.

 

[TheSmokingMan]

While it was more than what I would have given, it is still less than the 10+ games that a lot of people were clamoring for. I'm glad DOPS didn't cave to the pressure of the pitchfork and torch wielding types that we've seen on display in this thread.

 

[kilowatt]

I don’t have any sympathy for this dude. He’s earned his reputation. I’ll be glad when he’s out of the league.

 

[El Travo]

I'm certain that a select few people would have preferred Wilson get nothing just so they could keep up the victim complex.

 

[DRW895]

One more long unfair supsension for Wilson

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

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they all agreed to do it this way

Gimme your 1-10 rating on the DoPS for consistency in doing "it this way".

 

[frisco]

Probably not one of the top 15 most dangerous things Tom Wilson has done illegally in the NHL. Six games seems about right.

My Best-Carey

 

[pekka55]

It's almost like actions have consequences and when you've been a dick for most of your career, you're not going to get the benefit of doubt anymore. Just like the real world.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I hate Wilson as much as the average hockey fan, but this is the right take.

He was obviously in an uncharacteristic "wtf did I just do, sorry dude" moment. I'll give Wilson the benefit of the doubt this time.

6 games is a wildly excessive punishment, based purely on reputation. Once more, DoPS is all over the map.

No chance. Wilson did the act much like all of his other actions, without brainpower and self control. Regretted the result perhaps, hence the reaction. It hardly atones for his pattern. The act alone was worth 6 games regardless. Reputation is what should have made it longer.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Gimme your 1-10 rating on the DoPS for consistency in doing "it this way".

There aren’t that many chronic repeat offenders who have really tested out the progressive punishment scale.

Matt Cooke, Raffi Torres, Daniel Carcillo, Brad Marchand, Tom Wilson, maybe a few more. I’m expecting Rempe to join the list.

Of those, I feel like Marchand never really got what he deserved. Good players like him generally get off lighter. But I actually think progressive punishment is something DoPS does pretty well overall.

Sometimes people compare unlike incidents and then claim inconsistency. Like I think you even replied how crazy it is to compare what Wilson did to McSorely or Bertuzzi. There’s a reason why there so many different levels of penalties for most offenses.

But on other issues, especially boarding, DoPS is wildly inconsistent. On ice refs are really doing a bad job handling majors and match penalties.

Overall, if I’m judging the DoPS by their mandate in the CBA (below), I’d give them a 7.5. The game still feels exciting to watch - partly because of the risks and the fights - but also the overwhelming number of players don’t push it too far. And when they err, it’s because they’re too lenient. For example, I thought they should’ve gone after Trouba a long time ago for the way he snuck those elbows in to otherwise clean hits (I think he stopped doing it so much)

 

[joestevens29]

Most disgusting part is Washington leaving that “a” on his jersey

 

[nbwingsfan]

There aren’t that many chronic repeat offenders who have really tested out the progressive punishment scale.

Matt Cooke, Raffi Torres, Daniel Carcillo, Brad Marchand, Tom Wilson, maybe a few more. I’m expecting Rempe to join the list.

Of those, I feel like Marchand never really got what he deserved. Good players like him generally get off lighter. But I actually think progressive punishment is something DoPS does pretty well overall.

Sometimes people compare unlike incidents and then claim inconsistency. Like I think you even replied how crazy it is to compare what Wilson did to McSorely or Bertuzzi. There’s a reason why there so many different levels of penalties for most offenses.

But on other issues, especially boarding, DoPS is wildly inconsistent. On ice refs are really doing a bad job handling majors and match penalties.

Overall, if I’m judging the DoPS by their mandate in the CBA (below), I’d give them a 7.5. The game still feels exciting to watch - partly because of the risks and the fights - but also the overwhelming number of players don’t push it too far. And when they err, it’s because they’re too lenient. For example, I thought they should’ve gone after Trouba a long time ago for the way he snuck those elbows in to otherwise clean hits (I think he stopped doing it so much)


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I dunno, Marchand got 6 games for what he did to Jarry which realistically had an absolute zero% chance of causing injury and was just plain stupid.

If that were his first time doing something, I doubt that’s even remembered/suspended never mind given the same thing Wilson was just getting for swinging his stick as hard as he can at someone’s head, knocking out all of his teeth.

So it’s hard to say Marchand wasn’t affected by his reputation

 

[JimmyApples]

At least this “Parros and the NHL hate the Leafs wahhhh” narrative can end

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I hate Wilson as much as the average hockey fan, but this is the right take.

He was obviously in an uncharacteristic "wtf did I just do, sorry dude" moment. I'll give Wilson the benefit of the doubt this time.

6 games is a wildly excessive punishment, based purely on reputation. Once more, DoPS is all over the map.

Uncharacteristic?

Showing remorse after you've snapped and took a baseball swing at a player's head doesn't make it ok. It's just another sign that he loses control of his emotions out there and tries to injure people.

I don't understand what the benefit of the doubt is. The puck is nowhere nearby. This was an intentional swing at a player and an obvious non-hockey play. The intention is pretty clearly to inflict pain.

 

[CN8]

But didn’t Reaves want violence back in hockey?

 

[Naych_PHX]

These players really don't care if they get suspended, especially the ones on fat contracts. It's the NHL punishing them not their peers, coaches, bosses. The NHLPA and the team always fight for the player that got suspended and stick up for them. "We got your back."

The have nothing to lose and don't feel punished at all unless the actual team or coaches come out and try to say something to the player. But no, the teams usually stick up for the offender.

 

[Dessloch]

Most disgusting part is Washington leaving that “a” on his jersey

Considering they have the most despicable and morally corrupt captain, does it surprise you? (on top of that - that captain always sticking up and never calling out Wilson)

 

[Il Stugotz]

I dunno, Marchand got 6 games for what he did to Jarry which realistically had an absolute zero% chance of causing injury and was just plain stupid.

If that were his first time doing something, I doubt that’s even remembered/suspended never mind given the same thing Wilson was just getting for swinging his stick as hard as he can at someone’s head, knocking out all of his teeth.

So it’s hard to say Marchand wasn’t affected by his reputation

Shit for some reason I spaced and thought he just got a fine for that lol
That changes the equation a bit

 

[swiftwin]

Whatever you say. Leafs have the second most suspensions under Parros. Does that match your worldview for a team I'm told is soft?

Bahahahaha, you were wrong after all

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Crap sake, there is no way to defend what Wilson did. He clearly did it on purpose. Multiple replay angles show the incident. There is no way he swings his stick like that and hits the player's face accidentally. The feigned concern after the incident was laughable. Given his history 6 games is a light punishment.

Signed, a Tom Wilson fan who is capable of recognizing reality even when a player I enjoy watching transgresses.