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Done in Chicago? If so, what is the return here assuming 50% retained
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He seems unhappy, but I don't even begin to know what would happen to him regarding a trade; his contract would be tough to move, and the return wouldn't be much.
Even with half retention, $5m (ish) is a lot for a guy who has struggled like he has this year. Sure, he's been better since January, but not be enough to warrant a playoff team to allocate that much to him.
I swear I keep saying this in regards to our players with multi-million dollar cap hits, but if we were to trade him, we'd have to trade his trash contract for another. Playoff teams probably value him closer to $3m, so you'd need at least $2m coming back along with the retention. Now if he'd be willing to go to a handful of teams, then we'd be looking at a potential deal with some value coming back; if he's focused on just one or two teams, we'd have to do all that just to get back a 2nd/3rd and B/C level prospect.
Chicago will have all 3 of their retention spots open in the summer.Seems he wants out. Offer him up with 50% retained at the draft. Hawks still have one retention spot left, so they can do it as soon as trading opens back up.
It will suck to see him go, but hearing this shit constantly probably sucks worse. There’s nothing sentimental about forcing him to stay around and talk about how miserable he is.
If Keith can end up elsewhere, so can Toews.
That’s what I thought too, but Roumeliotis was saying something about them not immediately resetting. So by not retaining to move de Haan, they’ll have one retention spot open immediately in the off-season.Chicago will have all 3 of their retention spots open in the summer.
Interesting. Seems odd to me, but I'm not an expert.That’s what I thought too, but Roumeliotis was saying something about them not immediately resetting. So by not retaining to move de Haan, they’ll have one retention spot open immediately in the off-season.
I don’t know, I was confused about what he meant, but figured he knows more than I do
I listened to that podcast episode as well. I think Charlie was a speaking a little unclearly because it should reset as of 7/1/2022 at the beginning of free agency. I guess maybe he was referring to being able to trade someone with retention at the draft? I don't see a Toews moving being a draft day trade.That’s what I thought too, but Roumeliotis was saying something about them not immediately resetting. So by not retaining to move de Haan, they’ll have one retention spot open immediately in the off-season.
Oh well that's dumb.I listened to that podcast episode as well. I think Charlie was a speaking a little unclearly because it should reset as of 7/1/2022 at the beginning of free agency. I guess maybe he was referring to being able to trade someone with retention at the draft? I don't see a Toews moving being a draft day trade.
Also, not for nothing, HF Hawks could easily make a podcast that outclasses the NBCSN and Madhouse podcastsOh well that's dumb.
Chicago, if they did trade Toews, wouldn't do it at the draft. It would happen once free agency opens up.
I think Toews has earned the right to speak honestly. The disrespect he gets from a few armchair vegetables is unconscionable.#NotMyCaptain
Madhouse podcast is dead by the way. Zawaski went to that CHGO thing, and Neveau to HawksTalkAlso, not for nothing, HF Hawks could easily make a podcast that outclasses the NBCSN and Madhouse podcasts
Well prob, but the Madhouse podcast is no more with the CHGO podcast network overtaking itAlso, not for nothing, HF Hawks could easily make a podcast that outclasses the NBCSN and Madhouse podcasts
Hope you’re not referring to me as a vegetable because I’m saying it seems he wants to be moved, and the Hawks should do all they can to honor that.I think Toews has earned the right to speak honestly. The disrespect he gets from a few armchair vegetables is unconscionable.
Fiddy's drunken tirades would certainly be more interesting to listen to.Also, not for nothing, HF Hawks could easily make a podcast that outclasses the NBCSN and Madhouse podcasts
Did I quote you?Hope you’re not referring to me as a vegetable because I’m saying it seems he wants to be moved, and the Hawks should do all they can to honor that.
Wild that you say things about people being rude, but then feel it’s okay to call people vegetables.
So that addresses the first part of my post.Did I quote you?
He's definitely part of the fault.Guy speaks with honesty, and if we as fans are pissed off with what has happened to this team, imagine what someone with real ties to the organization, who has dedicated his entire career to the team, and gave it his all every shift to win, feels.
This team has turned into a dumpster fire, and it's not Toews fault. The Pens were still a damn good team when they were missing Crosby and Malkin, so I dont want to hear how he is a major/main reason why this team sucks.
Just as much as Kane, with his IDGAF attitude when it comes to defensive play, and it rubbing off on our younger players.He's definitely part of the fault.