Proposal: Timo Meier for William Nylander

[The Moose is Loose]

Meier has a poison pill of a contract incoming. So while I think in terms of on ice product the Leafs would improve, it'd be a poor decision for the salary cap

 

[Morbo]

yeah I think the contract situations of the two make this a no go

 

[Groo]

You called him soft , passive, one dimensional and poor defensively . Doesnt seem too friendly. And you doubled down w a strawman power forward argument. Leafs don't do this even Qo aside. There is a very clear talent disparity in addition to having contractual assurance w Nylander.

Blah blah blah...

 

[Groo]

You called him soft , passive, one dimensional and poor defensively . Doesnt seem too friendly. And you doubled down w a strawman power forward argument. Leafs don't do this even Qo aside. There is a very clear talent disparity in addition to having contractual assurance w Nylander.

No I answered the Q with a question of whether or not Nylander would be a fit in SJ. I was taking a shot at Doug Wilson and his seemingly preferred type of player.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Doug Wilson slams down his mobile while laughing maniacally and calling all his friends to rally support for blackballing Dubas. And then he adds Dubas to his blocked list on all of his apps. While laughing maniacally.

And then he maniacally pours a cup of coffee?

 

[TOGuy14]

Is the QO only one year? In his best interest to negotiate a 5-7 year deal at $7shmil no? Guess depends on his play but hockey players are more likely taking the sure thing then risk playing under a short term deal (as a general rule).

Yes

The way it works is that the team two options, though one branches outwards really

They can qualify the player at his rate, in this case $10M for one season, or pass on it and player becomes a free agent. If they qualify him they can negotiate a long term deal, but at that point the player has all the leverage

 

[hidek91]

Yes

The way it works is that the team two options, though one branches outwards really

They can qualify the player at his rate, in this case $10M for one season, or pass on it and player becomes a free agent. If they qualify him they can negotiate a long term deal, but at that point the player has all the leverage

He can also accept the QO and become UFA 1 year after that. Dream scenario for Meier.

 

[CatchyTune]

He can also accept the QO and become UFA 1 year after that. Dream scenario for Meier.

yeah thats why i dont like it. if he had regular RFA status i would probably do this. but the fact we would have to pay him $10 million and worry about him walking the year after causes me to lose interest in him. just a very strange contract structure.

 

[McJedi]

Leafs would do well with a presence like Timo. Physical and plays hard every shift while being able to score 25-30 goals. Would add a lot of sandpaper to the roster.

Sharks on the other hand desperately need a playmaking forward as they have none on the roster. William could be that player for them.

Seems fair. Toronto gets a little more physical. San Jose gets a little more scoring. Both guys are quite skilled.

 

[glenbuis]

Didn't they change the CBA to stop those backloaded deals leading to massive qualifying offers?

Edit: I think it only applies to contracts signed after july 10, 2020 so Meier's QO will be 10 million

How does Doug Wilson paint himself into a corner like that .

 

[All Mod Cons]

So he turned into a power forward has he?

Is there any other option than those two?

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

How does Doug Wilson paint himself into a corner like that .

It was intentional, to lower the cap hit during the short run and get Meier to sign.

This is a pretty good discussion on it at the time:
Did the Sharks start a new trend with the QO structure of Timo Meier's contract?

Presumably Wilson was planning to sign him longterm once the contract ended anyway. Jarmo did something similar after the fact with Werenski.

 

[DarthProbert]

pass

Nylander is a better player and doesnt Meier have a $10 million qualifying offer coming up? cant wait for people to flame us for a 4th $10+ million player

Doug Wilson slams down his mobile while laughing maniacally and calling all his friends to rally support for blackballing Dubas. And then he adds Dubas to his blocked list on all of his apps. While laughing maniacally.

Really? Wilson is the one who laughs and hangs up? The one being offered the player who's top line and still improving, while giving up a player who's declining at the same age? Wilson laughs at the prospect of unloading someone on pace for 12 goals, whose points have declined 2 years now at age 24, who's due a $10 million QO when his deal is up? For someone who immediately be the best player on the team?

If the Sharks are run like their fans on here want them to be run, they're going to be a last place team for a long, long, long time.

 

[DG93]

Yeah, I'd definitely do this...not sure why the Leafs would though lol

 

[2022 Stanley Cup]

This seems to me like a trade that would be made if both players wanted out or needed a shake up or their GMs decided their team needs a shakeup. I can't speak for how San Jose is right now but I can speak for the Leafs and say if we need a shakeup it is not Willy who needs it. It would be another goalie for Anderson if anything

 

[Gecklund]

This seems to me like a trade that would be made if both players wanted out or needed a shake up or their GMs decided their team needs a shakeup. I can't speak for how San Jose is right now but I can speak for the Leafs and say if we need a shakeup it is not Willy who needs it. It would be another goalie for Anderson if anything

I’ll give you Jones for Andersen. Hell I’ll even throw in Dubnyk for Dell!

 

[2022 Stanley Cup]

I’ll give you Jones for Andersen. Hell I’ll even throw in Dubnyk for Dell!

You guys can sign him as a UFA because we aren't likely to resign him and we need money for a few guys like Hyman and Dermott.

 

[Gecklund]

You guys can sign him as a UFA because we aren't likely to resign him and we need money for a few guys like Hyman and Dermott.

But you guys need the shakeup now so we will give you Jones and you just give us Andersen!

 

[2022 Stanley Cup]

But you guys need the shakeup now so we will give you Jones and you just give us Andersen!

Jones is that bad eh?

 

[CatchyTune]

I’ll give you Jones for Andersen. Hell I’ll even throw in Dubnyk for Dell!

uhhh, we dont have Dell no more

 

[34]

pass

Nylander is a better player and doesnt Meier have a $10 million qualifying offer coming up? cant wait for people to flame us for a 4th $10+ million player

Yeah, I am not wanting to trade Willy at this point. He is on a great contract at that.

 

[hohosaregood]

Seeing the wide range of reactions to this deal, I have to imagine that this is actually a fair offer lol

 

[Agent Zub]

The more I watch both teams, the more this makes too much sense.

Who here has the clout to get DW and Dubas on the phone?

 

[Patagonia]

Leafs pass due to a bad contract?

Nylander deal is front loaded and longer before reaching UFA status. Meir QO is awful due to being back-ended at $10M.

Players are comparable and would be a fair deal without the contract discrepancies.

 

[Sharks99]

Leafs pass due to a bad contract?

Nylander deal is front loaded and longer before reaching UFA status. Meir QO is awful due to being back-ended at $10M.

Players are comparable and would be a fair deal without the contract discrepancies.

How about Meier for Nylander. Sharks throw in Jones at 50% and Vlasic?