Speculation: Time to move Byron?

[groovejuice]

Before the beginning of last season was the right time to move him. I doubt he'll bring much is a return at this point.

 

[26Mats]

14 Picks!

If things don't want with next year's picks, Bergevin would make 43 selections in 4 years.
He's hoping to hit big on those 4th and 5th round picks.

I like that he used 3 this year in trades to get his guy.

Interesting that we only used 8 if the 14 we had coming in....

I would be happy to use some of those 4ths and 5ths to move Byron.

 

[26Mats]

What about something around James Neal for Paul Byron. Neal has size and around 20 goals, but cost 2.35 mil more. They both have 3 years left on their contracts.

I would want a 1st to take on Neal's deal. We'll need the cap space and he's 33, should decline.

 

[mariolemieux66]

I like that he used 3 this year in trades to get his guy.

Interesting that we only used 8 if the 14 we had coming in....

I would be happy to use some of those 4ths and 5ths to move Byron.

All those late round picks aren't making an impact for another 3 to 4 years and next year's picks in 5. Weber, Price, Petry, Gallagher will all be done. I understand they are building for the future and I want them to do so, but what bugs me is that, in 9 drafts Bergevin has not gotten a single extra first. What's more infuriating is that, we missed the playoffs 4 of the last 5 years. No wonder we don't have impact players or goal scorers.

 

[26Mats]

All those late round picks aren't making an impact for another 3 to 4 years and next year's picks in 5. Weber, Price, Petry, Gallagher will all be done. I understand they are building for the future and I want them to do so, but what bugs me is that, in 9 drafts Bergevin has gotten a single extra first. What's more infuriating is that, we missed the playoffs 4 of the last 5 years. No wonder we don't have impact players or goal scorers.

Yeah for sure.

I really wanted us to move Domi and or Tatar for 1sts, then use the ufa market to replace them. But I'm happy with getting Anderson - if he can stay healthy.

 

[PhysicX]

The time to move him was during the 2017-2018 season.

 

[Holystik]

Byron doesn't have much value right now in compared to what some of you think. With almost an AAV of 4M$, his age and recent decline I am a bit woried on how hard it could be to move him. Very hard.


Edit: Don't forget, most teams are not looking forward to add cap space. Old*, small and bad last season. Gloomy

 

[Archijerej]

Depends. If healthy, Paulie's a valuable player. But if we can replace him with a good player and improve our long term cap situation, then why not?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I wouldn’t retain or add a sweetener to move him but happy to return him to waivers where we found him.

$3.4MM is about $2MM too much for a 4th line winger

 

[jaffy27]

Man Ottawa got 42m free cap space plus LITR of Gaborik if im not mistaken lmao

Ottawa can’t even afford the floor

 

[MasterD]

The best time to trade him was 18 months ago.

The next best time to get rid of him is now.

 

[BLONG7]

The best time to trade him was 18 months ago.

The next best time to get rid of him is now.

Bergy's style, hang on too long, and makes it worse by giving said player too much money.....we all knew it at the time, and yet .............amazing how MB still has a job, he is sure lucky his boss is busy with condos...and not his hockey team.

 

[Agalloch]

He may need to come packaged with a pick. But couldn't a team like Ottawa fit him in. They just traded for Murray. They need some good vets.

He would be a great fit in Ottawa.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Huge opportunity to move him for futures when he was a pending UFA.

Now he's an anchor with no trade value.

 

[Revansky]

Huge opportunity to move him for futures when he was a pending UFA.

Now he's an anchor with no trade value.

Not the kind of player you give that much term. I think we will either need to buy him out or hope he rebounds next season

 

[ArtPeur]

If the plan is to become grittier, trade him for anything and lure Patrick Maroon or similar players. Heck, I would bring back Thompson too

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

If we need to clear space to improve our forwards I would expect we'd trade Tatar to make room, it would be hard to trade a bottom six guy like Byron with the current cap situation, however a guy like Tatar with only one year left could be appealing for teams who miss out on adding offensive help. In addition he's only owed $3.2M in actual cash this year which would be very appealing for teams, seeing how Bergevin wants to make the team tougher to play against I would think Tatar isn't in the long-term plans.

 

[sampollock]

a year ago was time to dump him

 

[Sorinth]

I don't think Byron has much value on a trade market at this moment unless we retain money or take back a bad contract. So there's little point in trying to deal him right now. His value will probably go up as his contract gets closer to the end and he's a player that if you really need to you can move easily enough.

So unless we can sign a big name UFA we may as well keep him.

 

[angusyoung]

I don't think Byron has much value on a trade market at this moment unless we retain money or take back a bad contract. So there's little point in trying to deal him right now. His value will probably go up as his contract gets closer to the end and he's a player that if you really need to you can move easily enough.

So unless we can sign a big name UFA we may as well keep him.

Must be able to get a pick or 2 still for him. MB could still get a ufa and then put him out there,same thing with BG on an expiring contract,he will be too expensive next contract. Should get Tyler Johnson as he's locked in for a while at 5 and he can play C or RW

 

[26Mats]

I don't think Byron has much value on a trade market at this moment unless we retain money or take back a bad contract. So there's little point in trying to deal him right now. His value will probably go up as his contract gets closer to the end and he's a player that if you really need to you can move easily enough.

So unless we can sign a big name UFA we may as well keep him.

If we get a 5-6M dollar UFA, what do you think it takes to move Byron's full salary? A 2nd? A 3rd? A 2nd and a 3rd?

 

[Omar]

If we can get one of Hall, Toffoli, Dadonov of Hoffman signed it would be great to keep Byron on the 4th line with 1st PK duties but on that role he can be replaced by a player with a smaller cap hit quite easily.

Trading Byron might be hard though without having to retain...

You can’t keep Byron and Lekhonen, choose the younger player. IMO the times of carrying smallish non-scoring forwards is over so I’d like to get rid of both, same with Weal, heck I’d add Mete to the list too, but I don’t expect a clear out.

 

[jaffy27]

14 Picks!

If things don't want with next year's picks, Bergevin would make 43 selections in 4 years.
He's hoping to hit big on those 4th and 5th round picks.

Many great players have come out of these rounds, and they about the easiest to acquire

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

You can get 3 better players in today’s market for what we are paying Byron, absolutely no chance he has trade value. Would need to add a big sweetener, like probably a 1st or a 2nd with a good prospect, take back a cap dump or buy him out - if that is even still an option?

 

[PP Subban]

It’s not that the Habs don’t need Byron it’s the fact that they don’t need his 3.4m cap hit on the 3rd or 4th line for the next 3 years. I think he’s a solid player And brings a great effort level every night and is well respected in the room. He’s also had some trouble staying healthy.

I don’t mind the Habs moving him as long as after this season they aren’t playing someone worse than him on the 3rd line. Basically if Tatar leaves via FA and management doesn’t replace him with a top 6 winger then I think Byron has to stay for at least another year.