Thornton says Matthews should be up for the Rocket, Selke, and Hart - PART 2

[The Moose is Loose]

I think the reason they disappear is for the same reason why some people don’t speak up when the going is good for Toronto. It’s all too juvenile.

With that being said goals and assists adjusted for games played:

McDavud
G - 20
A - 36
Pts - 56

Matthews
G - 26
A - 18
Pts - 44

I don’t know McDavid will probably win the hart.

Matthews will probably win the rocket.

Someone else will win the selke.

Who knows who wins the Canadian Cup.

I don't know if Matthews will necessarily win the Rocket anymore, McDavid is only 1 goal back right bow

 

[KCC]

It would be pretty neat to see McDavid win the Rocket. It's one of those things that could make him go from a 40 goal scorer to a 50 goal scorer if he shoots more (which he is lately) and a possible threat for the Rocket more every year because of it.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

It would be pretty neat to see McDavid win the Rocket. It's one of those things that could make him go from a 40 goal scorer to a 50 goal scorer if he shoots more (which he is lately) and a possible threat for the Rocket more every year because of it.

McDavid is 2nd in the league in shots, he's been shooting alot this year.

 

[Gordian Knot]

At some point Oilers will find a away to score when goalies are on the bench. It has been ridiculous this season that they can't score on empty net to save their lives.

Then it is bye bye because it will add on for this pace of points.

 

[MrThomas]

Rocket for David, Hart for David and Selke for Barkov sorry Thornton and Mat

 

[Gary Nylund]

There is truth to what he's saying tho.
All the guys you mentioned are not what I consider 2way players. Sure they pad their stats in the reg season but aren't the type so far where they seem to succeed in the playoffs.
I'll just use my team as an example but Horvat, Petey, Hughes, Demko took their game to another level and for the first 3 it wasn't just about the offense.
On any given night one of those guys stepped up and you could say they were the main cog that particular game. And aside from Horvats (4) games all were rookies.
AM and MM haven't showed that yet but that's not saying they won't.
Leaf fans blamed Freddy and sure he is in the same boat but to get shutout 2 of 5 games plus one game where all the goals came in the last couple of mins is not a good look.

Matthews and Marner are both good two way players, especially Matthews.

 

[NK94]

They’re both elite players.. so why does every single thread become a pissing match over who is better?

 

[HotPie]

They’re both elite players.. so why does every single thread become a pissing match over who is better?

Because some people can't accept that McDavid is the best player in the NHL.

 

[Leaf Fans]

don’t forget the “shoulda, coulda, woulda” trophy and the most import one, voted by Leaf fans, the “If” trophy!

There are no such trophies.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Because some people can't accept that McDavid is the best player in the NHL.

Yeah, well he is. MacKinnon is a good player too though.

 

[Zenos]

At some point Oilers will find a away to score when goalies are on the bench. It has been ridiculous this season that they can't score on empty net to save their lives.

Then it is bye bye because it will add on for this pace of points.

I kind of hope that doesn't change, just so we don't have to read the ridiculous counter-arguments
"bUT X% of DraISATl's goALS aRe EN!!"

 

[McFlyingV]

At some point Oilers will find a away to score when goalies are on the bench. It has been ridiculous this season that they can't score on empty net to save their lives.

Then it is bye bye because it will add on for this pace of points.

It's already bye bye. He's out pacing the next closest non-Oiler by 29 points over 82 games.

 

[McFlyingV]

They’re both elite players.. so why does every single thread become a pissing match over who is better?

Probably because there's a massive gap between the two and every year we hear some new argument about how its close or how Matthews might be surpassing him only to have the season progress and McDavid blow him away by a landslide for the 5th straight season.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Selke needs to be off this list, that is a huge stretch at best.

 

[McFlash97]

It feels like every single season through 20 games Leafs fans do the same song and dance comparing Matthews to McDavid with their ridiculous hyperbolic takes.

And of course, predictably, once McDavid shuts them up and makes the discussion look idiotic, they mysteriously vanish. Although some of the more delusional ones still are holding the line and believing it to be true.

majority just switched over to Kane lol. Kane for Hart !

 

[McFlash97]

the real twist is.....can McDavid score more goals then Matthews gets assists....

 

[2 others]

Probably because there's a massive gap between the two and every year we hear some new argument about how its close or how Matthews might be surpassing him only to have the season progress and McDavid blow him away by a landslide for the 5th straight season.

Yeah, but Matthews is the 1B to McDavid as the 1A

..LOL, thanks Dr. Ray "Hype Me Up" Ferraro

 

[keglu]

the real twist is.....can McDavid score more goals then Matthews gets assists....

I would say easily
More interesting one. McDavid assists vs Matthews points.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Matthews and Marner are both good two way players, especially Matthews.

I think of two way players like Barkov, Kopitar, Marchand. Being average defensively doesn't qualify in my eyes.

 

[Adamantoise]

Matthews is the all-time leader in trophies-awarded-in-first-month-of-season/60 by far

 

[crowi]

Matthews and Marner are both good two way players, especially Matthews.

Ah yes of course. Such PK power from Matthews specifically. That man, plays no pk, but is great at it.
Easily one of the best defensive players (lol) in the league while not playing hard minutes.

 

[2 others]

Ah yes of course. Such PK power from Matthews specifically. That man, plays no pk, but is great at it.
Easily one of the best defensive players (lol) in the league while not playing hard minutes.

It's about expected PKing, the potential is there.

 

[crowi]

It's about expected PKing, the potential is there.

True, if you twist stats around enough, then even Matthews is playing PK. The minutes don't agree, but the SELKE VOTING will, I suppose.

 

[keglu]

Matthews is the all-time leader in trophies-awarded-in-first-month-of-season/60 by far

Actually his 5v5 /60 peaked 3-4 seasons ago. Last two years with increased Ice Time he is pretty average. PP/60 he is not even best on his own team.
No longer golden boy of /60 stats .

 

[Leaf Fans]

Matthews is the all-time leader in trophies-awarded-in-first-month-of-season/60 by far

He is tied with everyone else in the league with those.