SpookyTsuki
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Yzerman was selling that house last year as well.
Yzerman is not quitting on Tampa to come to Detroit.
Pretty sure there were some people talking about how they aren't even a playoff team in one of the two GDTsThen realized Tampa wasn’t gonna win the cup and now they’re going to this year.
Pretty sure there were some people talking about how they aren't even a playoff team in one of the two GDTs
Then realized Tampa wasn’t gonna win the cup and now they’re going to this year.
That's a good point. We definitely lost a lot of management and coaching talent over the years. That can only happen for so long before you feel the pinch.
I hope you're not saying dealing Gator, Helm, and Nielsen in the final year of their deals are those bigger decisions. That means the significant moves for the "rebuild" would still be five years out.
They will happen extactly that way. Team is on pretty good shape on that time.
But there will be somebody else handling those deals.
It's pretty tough to see vet players traded, who are not on their last year of the deal. Because every contender is against the cap, and windows are narrow, nobody has willingness to take multi-year deals on their books. Only UFA-rentals are most common trades to happen.
Just build timeline:
2018 deadline
- Green (for low 1st)
2019 deadline
- Howard
- Nyquist
- Kronwall (if not LTIRetired at summer)
2020 deadline
- Ericsson
- Daley
2020-21
- potential NHL lockout
2021-22
- Nielsen
- DeKeyser
2022-23
- Abdelkader
That's the plan to sell assets out, if the team never hits the playoffs. If they are on a rise with a new young core, you need those vets by ourself. Then selling is not that obvious. Anything after that potential lockout is just probably too far ahead to predict.
- Green, Howard, Nyquist, Kronwall, Ericsson, Daley, Nielsen, DeKeyser, Abdelkader
That's the plan to sell assets
Definition of asset:
"as·set
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- a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality."
Why is everyone saying this is Hollands last year? Im not so sure about this theory
He's 62 and is still not signed to a new contract.Why is everyone saying this is Hollands last year? Im not so sure about this theory
I don't want him anywhere near this franchise, unless it's painfully clear that:I think this is our last year with him as GM. I hope he moves upstairs. I am going to puke if he somehow winds up over in Maple Leaf land.
I don't want him anywhere near this franchise, unless it's painfully clear that:
1) There is a wholesale change in philosophy with the new regime;
2) His replacement has full authority to act on his own accord, without Kenny hovering over his shoulder; and
3) Holland himself goes on record as supporting a rebuild.
Otherwise, he can keep his outdated and overly conservative tactics to himself.
I understand your comments regarding point #1, but I don't see the issue with #3. Would it be so unreasonable, during a press conference for Holland's transition, to have him include a short statement to the effect of, "I look forward to my new role, and <name of new GM> has my full support in rebuilding this franchise back into the exciting hockey club that our great fans deserve."? That seems pretty harmless.I don't know that #1 or #3 are realistic asks. I think #2 is though, and that would be good enough for me.
He could be a very valuable advisor, so long as his replacement is an outside hire. I agree they need to break up the groupthink and the conservative little bubble that seem to be going on in the front office. They need an outside voice to come in, then I think there can be a nice balance. But Holland has a lot of experience and can be worth keeping around as long as you let the new GM actually be the GM.
External hire is key. Draper would probably be a Holland clone, or defer to him all the time. Him or Ryan Martin are a big NO for me.
I understand your comments regarding point #1, but I don't see the issue with #3. Would it be so unreasonable, during a press conference for Holland's transition, to have him include a short statement to the effect of, "I look forward to my new role, and <name of new GM> has my full support in rebuilding this franchise back into the exciting hockey club that our great fans deserve."? That seems pretty harmless.
I mean, I'd prefer something specific enough to include phrases like, 'taking a step or two back, in order to take many steps forward', let alone how blunt Shanahan and Babcock were at the Toronto presser, but at least a token, 'Yeah, we're rebuilding now' doesn't seem like a huge ask.
Everyone here has followed the Red Wings too long and is too knowledgable to think Holland won't remain the GM of the Red Wings.
I try to be as optimistic as possible and hope he moves upstairs but I just don't see it.