Dreger: thinks the Leafs have called on Jack Johnson

[Baksfamous112]

nyalnder isn't ready to be a C. toronto shouldn't make this trade

if he isn't ready now, when will he be?

 

[Paneerboy]

Read my original post, not the answer.




Then trading Bozak for JJ makes total sense, doesn’t it? If he can fill the 3C spot then let him do it. JJ would definitely make your D better

7 points in 49 games and an all situations CorsiF% of 41.6 LMAO "makes our D better"

Even Polak hasn't been that bad

 

[sda]

Of course not. Carrick would be a throw-in for cap/contract purpose.



Dermott certainly has the potential to be better (soon) but to call him a better hockey player than JJ right now is laughable at best. He’s played what? 7 games?

Let’s take age/cap/contract aside. If you had to build a team to win one game today and you had to pick between JJ and Dermott, who would you pick?

Easily Dermott. Never liked Johnson

 

[Liferleafer]

Read my original post, not the answer.




Then trading Bozak for JJ makes total sense, doesn’t it? If he can fill the 3C spot then let him do it. JJ would definitely make your D better

I read the original post, Dermott over JJ is an easy decision.

Who are you talking about here?

 

[sda]

Easily Dermott. Never liked Johnson

 

[Baksfamous112]

7 points in 49 games and an all situations CorsiF% of 41.6 LMAO "makes our D better"

Even Polak hasn't been that bad

According to the same stats you just posted, Jeff Petry have been a top 25 D in this league for the past three years. I like Petry, but he's a #3 at best. Sorry to disappoint you but statistic doesn't always tell the whole story.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I read the original post, Dermott over JJ is an easy decision.

Who are you talking about here?

He'd be a marginal improvement on Carrick. It's not worthwhile at all really

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

According to the same stats you just posted, Jeff Petry have been a top 25 D in this league for the past three years. I like Petry, but he's a #3 at best. Sorry to disappoint you but statistic doesn't always tell the whole story.

It can tell us when someone sucks, and JJ is quite bad this year

 

[Baksfamous112]

Dermott certainly has the potential to be better (soon) but to call him a better hockey player than JJ right now is laughable at best. He’s played what? 7 games?

Let’s take age/cap/contract aside. If you had to build a team to win one game today and you had to pick between JJ and Dermott, who would you pick?

I read the original post, Dermott over JJ is an easy decision.

Who are you talking about here?

That is the original post. He then went on to say that he would've picked JJ over Dermott if he ha to pick between the two for a single game, today.

 

[Baksfamous112]

It can tell us when someone sucks, and JJ is quite bad this year

Doesn't mean he can't turn it around somewhere else. I remember Getzlaf two years ago (or maybe 3?), he had such a bad start, something like 10 pts in 30ish games. Everyone said he was washed up and turned it around in the second half.

At this point, it's not like you guys would take a big risk, he would cost a guy who will walk away in July, so no real assets to move.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

its for less than half a year and he won't be re-signed. since management think we're good enough to compete they should acquire him for a reasonable price.

The main sticking point. Reasonable offer from the Leafs would be a package for a 3rd pairing defender while I'm sure Columbus would want more than that

 

[Critical13]

I just don't think this helps us all that much. I don't see him being a noticeable improvement on Carrick/Borgman.

When healthy:

Reilly - Hainsey
Dermott - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Carrick/Borgman/trade/Polak.

In some combination^

I would want to push those 2 out of the top 6 by either acquiring a #4/5 or someone to push Hainsey off the 1st pairing. Otherwise, we're shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Liferleafer]

That is the original post. He then went on to say that he would've picked JJ over Dermott if he ha to pick between the two for a single game, today.

Again...i read it. In a 1 game be all end all, i choose Dermott over JJ. Which he also chose to....to which you called him delusional. To which i ask....what about JJ right now makes him superior in your opinion?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Doesn't mean he can't turn it around somewhere else. I remember Getzlaf two years ago (or maybe 3?), he had such a bad start, something like 10 pts in 30ish games. Everyone said he was washed up and turned it around in the second half.

At this point, it's not like you guys would take a big risk, he would cost a guy who will walk away in July, so no real assets to move.

Getzlaf is extremely talented. JJ isn't that good

 

[Maylo]

 

[Paneerboy]

Ya, we know Zaitsev sucks

Doesn't mean we're gonna add another bad defenseman to a bad defense

 

[Crede777]

If the Leafs were to add Johnson I think the reason would be because he really steps up his game in the playoffs.

 

[mikeyp24]

JJ last year is more of what he is as a whole. His numbers are part of Columbus having so many injuries for a big chunk that look at any player on the team and their numbers are down from last year except Anderson and Jones and Anderson is tailing off recently. It also is part of him and the CBJ not having the same opinion on a contract and Torts hated how Savard and JJ played so much he refused to play them together and since we only have 2 legit RHD JJ got screwed with the 3rd pair and playing with the lesser D like Harrington.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't want him or even putting up an offer I just had to clear up issues because people saying he would be the 6th best D on the team when he's higher then that on a far superior defensive unit in Columbus is kinda crazy.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

if he isn't ready now, when will he be?

Nylander is 21, he has time

 

[rent free]

if he isn't ready now, when will he be?

when galch will be. players develop differently. just because your player busted at C doesn't mean ours will.

 

[Critical13]

if he isn't ready now, when will he be?

Maybe when he's not 21 years old?

Tyler Seguin and Nathan Mackinnon are examples of a young players who take time to learn how to be a C of a top NHL line on a good team. Not everyone can step in and be a Matthews or a Hischier.

 

[Paneerboy]

when galch will be. players develop differently. just because your player busted at C doesn't mean ours will.

Oof be careful, I think you hit a sensitive spot

 

[Critical13]

What point are you making?

 

[Raging Bull]

Let’s take age/cap/contract aside. If you had to build a team to win one game today and you had to pick between JJ and Dermott, who would you pick?

What's the sense in this hypothetical, you don't build a team to win one game. Leafs are trying to build a winning team that contends annually.

 

[Leafs87]

hopefully we don't trade bozak for jj. our d looks fine right now and we wouldn't want to create a hole at C

Our D is garbage and the center would be an easy fix. Move Nylander or Marleau to C and call up Kapanen or Leivo