Salary Cap: The Salary Cap Thread | Countdown to Camp

[Big McLargehuge]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2017-18 salary ceiling​

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$75,000,000​

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Projected dollars committed |

71,795,000​

2016-17 bonus overage |

50,000​

Approximate cap space |

3,155,000​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

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Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

|

2019-20​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

30​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

29​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

29​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

30​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

28​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

25​

|

3,000,000​

|

3,000,000​

|

3,000,000​

Ryan Reaves|

RW​

|

30​

|

1,125,000​

|

UFA​

Jake Guentzel|

LW​

|

22​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

25​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

25​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

25​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

C​

|

28​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

|

.2019-20​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

30​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

26​

|

5,500,000​

|

5,500,000​

|

5,500,000​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

25​

|

4,100,000​

|

4,100,000​

|

4,100,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

22​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

Matt Hunwick|

D​

|

32​

|

2,250,000​

|

2,250,000​

|

2,250,000​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

28​

|

2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

23​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

|

27​

|

650,000​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

|

.2019-20​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

23​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

Antti Niemi|

G​

|

33​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

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Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2017-18​

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2018-19​

|

2019-20​

Zach Aston-Reese|

LW​

|

22​

|

925,000​

|

925,000​

|

RFA​

Adam Johnson|

C​

|

22​

|

925,000​

|

925,000​

|

RFA​

Thomas Di Pauli|

C​

|

23​

|

742,500​

|

RFA​

Freddie Tiffels|

LW​

|

22​

|

742,500​

|

742,500​

|

RFA​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Daniel Sprong|

RW​

|

20​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

22​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

24​

|

675,000​

|

675,000​

|

RFA​

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

|

26​

|

650,000​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Greg McKegg|

C​

|

25​

|

650,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

29​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

|

2019-20​

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

23​

|

742,500​

|

742,500​

|

RFA​

Ethan Prow|

D​

|

24​

|

730,000​

|

RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

|

23​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Frank Corrado|

D​

|

24​

|

650,000​

|

RFA​

Jarred Tinordi|

D​

|

25​

|

650,000​

|

RFA​

Zach Trotman|

D​

|

26​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Kevin Czuczman|

D​

|

26​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Chris Summers|

D​

|

29​

|

650,000​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

|

2019-20​

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

24​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Casey DeSmith|

G​

|

25​

|

650,000​

|

650,000​

|

UFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

22​

|

630,833​

|

RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

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News and notes​

Mark Streit|

D​

|

39​

|

5,250,000​

| Signed with Montreal (1 year, $700k)

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

37​

|

3,850,000​

| Signed with Tampa Bay (1 year, $2M)

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

33​

|

3,300,000​

| Signed with Detroit (3 years, $3.178M per)

Ron Hainsey|

D​

|

36​

|

2,833,333​

| Signed with Toronto (2 years, $3M per)

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

29​

|

1,900,000​

| Signed with Nashville (4 years, $4.1M per)

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

40​

|

1,000,000​

|Once again sounds like Pens, Wild or retirement

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $650k per)

David Warsofsky|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Colorado (2 years, $675k per, 2-way)

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Columbus (2 years, $650k, 2-way)

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

31​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Buffalo (2 years, $650k, 2-way)

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

|

26​

|

575,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $650k per, 2-way)

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

| Did not receive qualifying offer

Stuart Percy|

D​

|

24​

|

575,000​

| Did not receive qualifying offer

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

29​

|

575,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $650k, 2-way)

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

26​

|

1,400,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (3 years, $5.5M per)

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

23​

|

863,333​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $800k)

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

25​

|

800,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (6 years, $4.1M per )

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

23​

|

700,833​

| Traded to St. Louis for Ryan Reaves

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

25​

|

667,500​

| Re-signed with Penguins (3 years, $3M per)

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

24​

|

659,167​

| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $675k per)

Frank Corrado|

D​

|

24​

|

600,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $650k, 2-way)

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

23​

|

585,000​

|Needs to take bigger step from AHL supporting cast

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team​

|

Contract​

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

|

19​

|

Lulea HF (SHL)​

|

3 years, 775,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

|

19​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

21​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

21​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

|

19​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

22​

|Maine (HEA)

Jan Drozg|

F​

|

18​

|Shawinigan (QMJHL)

Connor Hall|

D​

|

19​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

|

21​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

22​

|Brown (ECAC)

Zachary Lauzon|

D​

|

18​

|Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)

Joe Masonius|

D​

|

20​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Linus Olund|

F​

|

20​

|Brynas IF (SHL)

Antti Palojarvi|

D​

|

18​

|Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

20​

|Penn State (B1G)

Clayton Phillips|

D​

|

17​

|Fargo (USHL)

Will Reilly|

D​

|

19​

|RPI (ECAC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

24​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[Empoleon8771]

I think we have differing opinions on Sheary vs. Hags. I'd prefer Hags for Smith than Sheary for Smith+, but I'd probably do either.

....or maybe my impatience is getting the best of me.

Pageau for Sheary, I don't think that's impatience because Pageau is an excellent player himself. Smith+ for Sheary, yeah I think that's impatience. I also think my impatience is making me more willing to accept that, even if the Penguins are getting a good center prospect along with Smith.

I think the best solution as of right now is to plan on Guentzel being the 3C to open next year, this becomes easier if the Penguins can sign Zapirov. Try and move one of your wingers for a center at some point so you can move Guentzel back to LW.

 

[billybudd]

Pageau and Sheary are probably similar levels as hockey players, but I'm not sure what the Penguins could do to entice Ottawa to accept a deal like this with JPP playing a more important position.

It would sort of be like the Islanders offering us Brock Nelson for Bonino 12 months ago. You're likely not losing anything in production, but opening a hole at center to fill one at wing isn't particularly desirable, which would have made it a non-starter.

 

[Andy99]

Pageau and Sheary are probably similar levels as hockey players, but I'm not sure what the Penguins could do to entice Ottawa to accept a deal like this with JPP playing a more important position.

It would sort of be like the Islanders offering us Brock Nelson for Bonino 12 months ago. You're likely not losing anything in production, but opening a hole at center to fill one at wing isn't particularly desirable, which would have made it a non-starter.

The other thing is that the Sens play a more defensively system and may not like Sheary because he's not really a good two-way player. They do need scoring but I'm not sure they'd like Sheary in Boucher's system. Hags would be a better player for them. But he's signed for less term than either Pageau or Smith. They might really like Hornqvist too but again it's not quite an equal value because he's a ufa

I just don't see them trading Pageau who they really like. Smith maybe, it if they're willing to take Hags, my guess is it's going to cost a pick as well, maybe a third

 

[billybudd]

The other thing is that the Sens play a more defensively system and may not like Sheary because he's not really a good two-way player. They do need scoring but I'm not sure they'd like Sheary in Boucher's system. Hags would be a better player for them. But he's signed for less term than either Pageau or Smith. They might really like Hornqvist too but again it's not quite an equal value because he's a ufa

I just don't see them trading Pageau who they really like. Smith maybe, it if they're willing to take Hags, my guess is it's going to cost a pick as well, maybe a third

Boucher doesn't really seem to ask much of wings, but the point about systems is a really good one. Pageau seems to really "get" what's being asked on him by Boucher, and that's probably going to make them even more unlikely to trade him than a normal team would be.

 

[Gurglesons]

Pageau and Sheary are probably similar levels as hockey players, but I'm not sure what the Penguins could do to entice Ottawa to accept a deal like this with JPP playing a more important position.

It would sort of be like the Islanders offering us Brock Nelson for Bonino 12 months ago. You're likely not losing anything in production, but opening a hole at center to fill one at wing isn't particularly desirable, which would have made it a non-starter.

I think straight up Sheary might get you Smith or Karlsson out of Vegas.

If you want Pageau you are probably paying Sheary, a 1st or 2nd plus a prospect like Jarry. He just killed it in the playoffs.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think straight up Sheary might get you Smith or Karlsson out of Vegas.

If you want Pageau you are probably paying Sheary, a 1st or 2nd plus a prospect like Jarry.

You are grossly undervaluing Sheary. Even with a poor playoff performance and Sheary playing with Crosby, he had a 70 point pace in an extended period of time last year in the regular season. That's not equal value to a center who had 25 points last year in Karlsson.

 

[Gurglesons]

You are grossly undervaluing Sheary. Even with a poor playoff performance and Sheary playing with Crosby, he had a 70 point pace in an extended period of time last year in the regular season. That's not equal value to a center who had 25 points last year in Karlsson.

Meh. I don't see why any team would take a risk on a player like Sheary who has historically disappeared in the playoffs or without Crosby. Sheary's value here versus other teams is astronomically different.

If we want to move one of our wings for value I'd go Rust or Hornqvist.

 

[SEALBound]

Originally Posted by Empoleon8771

I've started thinking about it some more, and if the Senators would throw in a center prospect on top of Smith, I think I'd do Sheary for Smith and a center prospect. They're actually only separated by 4 years, so it's not that huge of an age difference, and Smith is signed for an extra year over Sheary. Like if the Penguins could pull off Smith and Chlapik (Sprong's center in the Q, 2nd round pick in 2015) for Sheary, that might sway me.

If that was the deal, I think I would do that. But I would want to do it in late November or December. That would after having a better understanding of what we have in Sprong and potentially ZAR. Also an understanding on Zaripov if we do happen to sign him. If we can get the raw skill out of them that helps ease the pain of losing Sheary, and it gets us a 3C and a center prospect, I would do it.

 

[kbuck8851]

If signing Zaripov, why does everyone pick Sheary for moving? Value?

I would think that Hagelin would be the better option to go.
A package of Hagelin, Pouliot and a 1st aint too shabby, plus if Zaripov doesn't pan out at least we have Hagelin's contract gone for an upgrade or following season replacement.

 

[Shaffer]

I think Hags is as good as gone if we sign Zaripov. I also think that Sprong will be too good to send down. If my dream scenario, we trade Hags for a 3rd, We sign Zaripov for 2.25m and then trade Wilson/Kuhnackl+1st for AA and sign him for 3mil or just offer sheet him for that. And Sprong is too good to send down.
Guentzel-Crosby-Sheary
Zaripov-Malkin-Sprong
Rust-AA-Kessel
Reaves/Wilson-Rowney-Hornqvist

That 4th line is GARBAGE but it's whatever

 

[madinsomniac]

Yeah im pretty sure any of the contending teams trying to get past the pens aren't about to trade with them.... any team, and especially eastern teams,thinking its a playoff contender is probably not an option...

like many have said as camp progresses and even the season starts, you are going to have reality hit a lot of teams and either they won't be the contenders tgey though cause of injury or underproduction or some young guy will make some vet expendable or there will be a team that gets hit hard with the injury bug at wing and then you will get more movement at center

Right before camp is probably the worse time to try to trade for something... especially to a potential championship contender

 

[The GM]

I think straight up Sheary might get you Smith or Karlsson out of Vegas.

If you want Pageau you are probably paying Sheary, a 1st or 2nd plus a prospect like Jarry. He just killed it in the playoffs.

I'd be surprised if we could get Pageau without having to give up either Crosby or Malkin

 

[Jenkins]

I think Hags is as good as gone if we sign Zaripov. I also think that Sprong will be too good to send down. If my dream scenario, we trade Hags for a 3rd, We sign Zaripov for 2.25m and then trade Wilson/Kuhnackl+1st for AA and sign him for 3mil or just offer sheet him for that. And Sprong is too good to send down.
Guentzel-Crosby-Sheary
Zaripov-Malkin-Sprong
Rust-AA-Kessel
Reaves/Wilson-Rowney-Hornqvist

That 4th line is GARBAGE but it's whatever

The top 6 wings aren't a good combination (although I don't know much about Zaripov).

I think what Hagelin does very well is being underrated and Hornqvist isn't a 4th liner, he's basically at 50 points a season his whole career (or on pace for).

 

[mpp9]

I really doubt any EC playoff team wants to be the one to complete our roster for us short of getting a signifcant player in return. Not sure Sheary's that highly regarded yet.

 

[Return of the Paek]

Can anyone fill me in on Zaripov? From what I can see, we are flooded with wingers, why are we even giving this guy a look? Is he a stud or something? I know he's 36...

 

[WayneSid9987]

Reading around today. One of the KHL insiders says PIT is front runner for Zaripov.
Another report, think it was from a Lightning beat guy said he's down to 2 teams and Tampa isn't one of them.

Kingerski, says PIT isn't front runner and no offer has been made yet.

Can anyone fill me in on Zaripov? From what I can see, we are flooded with wingers, why are we even giving this guy a look? Is he a stud or something? I know he's 36...

Well if the plan is to trade a winger in the 3C deal, Zaripov would make some sense, imo.
He's still putting up really good numbers in the KHL @ 36 yrs old but is not a C.
Can play either wing. Not sure if he's a PK'er or not? My guess is he isnt.

You also look at Geno's potential LW'ers if Jake stays glued to Sid.
Atm it's Hagelin, Rust or Wilson.

I'm down for Zaripov if it means nothing of signifnicance needs moved just to fit him under the cap right now.

 

[Empoleon8771]

If Kingerski said that no offer was made and the Pens aren't a frontrunner, that means he's about to sign here and the deal is already done.

 

[mpp9]

Can anyone fill me in on Zaripov? From what I can see, we are flooded with wingers, why are we even giving this guy a look? Is he a stud or something? I know he's 36...

People who do KHL/NHL production translation models say he's easily capable of top 6 production. I don't care how old he is as long as he can play. It'd be a one year deal and we should be focused on this year anyway.

I'd throw 71 a bone especially if it helps us ice a more dangerous forward group and/or frees up a winger to use in a trade. Plus it could also allow us to be more patient with Sprong if injuries hit us.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'm one of Sprong's biggest fans on this site, and I'm even in the boat that keeping him in the AHL does absolutely no harm to him. I see people saying no to Zaripov on other sites because "we don't need to be giving a grandpa Sprong's ice time" or "we need to get as much as we can out of Sprong's ELC", which is just ridiculous logic against bringing in Zaripov. You're probably looking at a better version of Cervenka if Zaripov decides to come here, I have no problem with keeping a NHL ready prospect in the AHL longer to have that for a year.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm one of Sprong's biggest fans on this site, and I'm even in the boat that keeping him in the AHL does absolutely no harm to him. I see people saying no to Zaripov on other sites because "we don't need to be giving a grandpa Sprong's ice time" or "we need to get as much as we can out of Sprong's ELC", which is just ridiculous logic against bringing in Zaripov. You're probably looking at a better version of Cervenka if Zaripov decides to come here, I have no problem with keeping a NHL ready prospect in the AHL longer to have that for a year.

Plus like we literally just saw this work with Jake. If you can afford to ease a player into the NHL it almost always works.

 

[The Old Master]

I think Hags is as good as gone if we sign Zaripov. I also think that Sprong will be too good to send down. If my dream scenario, we trade Hags for a 3rd, We sign Zaripov for 2.25m and then trade Wilson/Kuhnackl+1st for AA and sign him for 3mil or just offer sheet him for that. And Sprong is too good to send down.
Guentzel-Crosby-Sheary
Zaripov-Malkin-Sprong
Rust-AA-Kessel
Reaves/Wilson-Rowney-Hornqvist

That 4th line is GARBAGE but it's whatever

i'm not so sure on aa as I once was any more.....from the guy's that saw him a lot more than I have, seem to think he doesn't have the "tool box" to play center. he does have the skill and he's young soooo..... there was always some risk, there just seems to be a bit more than I would like. imo.........but if we could get him cheep

 

[Empoleon8771]

Plus like we literally just saw this work with Jake. If you can afford to ease a player into the NHL it almost always works.

It's not only that, it's just unnecessary to force him into the NHL. I fully believe that Sprong could start out in the NHL next year and be successful immediately, like 50 points in 82 games successful. The Penguins also don't really need that, and if they can get another guy who can let Sprong take his time even more for free with little risk, it would be very smart for them to look into it.

Worst case scenario is he's Plotnikov part 2 and you trade him to Arizona in the middle of the season for someone who can help the AHL team, at which point you call up Sprong and just put him in Zaripov's place. Best case scenario is you get essentially a 1 year rental top-6 forward for nothing, plus you get the ability to play around with your other wingers and possibly move one of them for center help. It gives the Penguins much more flexibility by adding a skilled LWer, which they only have 1 other (Guentzel, if Sheary is playing RW).

 

[Shady Machine]

Can anyone fill me in on Zaripov? From what I can see, we are flooded with wingers, why are we even giving this guy a look? Is he a stud or something? I know he's 36...

Geno needs a friend

 

[Empoleon8771]

Geno needs a friend

It's not only that, he's a legitimately good player that gives the Penguins a nice amount of flexibility when making their lines. If the Penguins would get him, it would allow the Penguins to have a skilled LW opposite of Hornqvist if Hornqvist is playing with Malkin. They could open up the year with something like:

Sheary-Crosby-Rust
Zaripov-Malkin-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Guentzel-Kessel
Wilson-Rowney-Reaves

However, I don't know how they would make their lines if they added Zaripov and didn't slide Guentzel back to center or trade a winger for a center. Adding Zaripov and not changing your wingers at all doesn't make much sense.